Please let PS4 parse our dps like pc

[Eli85]

I built this PC roughly a year and a half ago. I dunno, maybe the prices have gone up a bit. But still, it's about building a PC intelligently, which means shopping for the parts intelligently. Why spend $150 on a GPU when you can look harder and get a 1070 GTX for $100? Yeah, it's pretty obvious that you're going to pay through the nose if you go to the "usual places" for parts. But one of the things that makes parts so great is that you can get them from anywhere.

Do you really think you can get a GTX 1070 for $100? This is the issue, right here. The MSRP for a GTX 1070 is $379 USD. That $100 USD won't even cover the manufacturing cost. No one is going to sell you a $379 card for $100.


edit: Even if you can get a GTX 1070 for a quarter of the MSRP, you're still going ridiculously over budget.

[DumdogsWorld]

Do you really think you can get a GTX 1070 for $100?

glances at desktop computer right next to me

Yes.

Anyway, you don't need to believe me. I said what I had to say, and I've learned my lesson from dealing with this forum - prolonged exchanges don't end well here.

Have a nice day.

[Eli85]

glances at desktop computer right next to me

Yes.

Anyway, you don't need to believe me. I said what I had to say, and I've learned my lesson from dealing with this forum - prolonged exchanges don't end well here.

Have a nice day.

I don't doubt that you have a 1070 in your rig. What I do doubt is: a) that you scored yours for 75% off; and b) that you think it's reasonable that every one building a PC is going to get a solid GPU for 75% off.

Budget on PC doesnt mean the cheapest stuff you could buy, but best price to performance ratio you could build with.
A decent PC that will run this game at 60+ fps will cost you about 600$, and that one will deliver.

Today is the best time to buy PC a market ever had.
Decent CPUs, cheap GPUs, cheap memory, cheap ssd.
It is the cheapest since ever.

I never said budget is the cheapest stuff you can buy. What I'm contesting is this mythical AAA 60 FPS rig that comes in at a $350 budget. Your $600 budget is much more reasonable, but also twice the price of a PS4 slim. To a lot of people—including myself—there's not enough value there.

[Nedkel]

I never said budget is the cheapest stuff you can buy. What I'm contesting is this mythical AAA 60 FPS rig that comes in at a $350 budget. Your $600 budget is much more reasonable, but also twice the price of a PS4 slim. To a lot of people—including myself—there's not enough value there.

You get like 80-90 fps on the 600$ machine, you get twice as much as you do on PS4 slim if not more.
Better graphics, better range of rendering, multitasking, being able to plug in 2 screens, play the game and do something on the other screen, xbox controller (if you want) etc.

[snarkomatic]

You get like 80-90 fps on the 600$ machine, you get twice as much as you do on PS4 slim if not more.
Better graphics, better range of rendering, multitasking, being able to plug in 2 screens, play the game and do something on the other screen, xbox controller (if you want) etc.

Yeah but I can do the same thing using my girlfriend's already-owned television and PS4 set up next to mine, or I can run something on my phone while I use my PS4, or turn on something on my laptop (which runs games like crap because it's old as dirt) and enjoy Netflix/check a guide/whatever. So I've still got the $300 console and can still do everything you just listed (task-wise, not graphics/performance wise of course) without spending any extra money, or buying a second computer monitor to do so.


Don't get me wrong -- I want a gaming PC. It's on my list of things to save up for. But as a single parent on limited income, it's kind of at the bottom of my list of things to save up for. And every time someone starts talking about how if I only spent 2-3x what I already had, I could do most of what I already can do, but with marginally nicer graphics ... I just have to laugh in poor person.

[Nedkel]

Yeah but I can do the same thing using my girlfriend's already-owned television and PS4 set up next to mine, or I can run something on my phone while I use my PS4, or turn on something on my laptop (which runs games like crap because it's old as dirt) and enjoy Netflix/check a guide/whatever. So I've still got the $300 console and can still do everything you just listed (task-wise, not graphics/performance wise of course) without spending any extra money, or buying a second computer monitor to do so.


Don't get me wrong -- I want a gaming PC. It's on my list of things to save up for. But as a single parent on limited income, it's kind of at the bottom of my list of things to save up for. And every time someone starts talking about how if I only spent 2-3x what I already had, I could do most of what I already can do, but with marginally nicer graphics ... I just have to laugh in poor person.

But you dont get 60-90 fps on top of it.
This is worth the money.

None of which is worth the extra $300 dollars (would much rather spend that money on additional games). Better graphics? True, but not enough. Multi-tasking and two screens? I gave up desk and monitor gaming long ago (TV is so much better). The extra frames are the only thing that I miss, but not really.


So yea, you get a better rig, but not enough to justify it, imo.

You get higher fps, the game is smooth and runs well.
You could play on your PC i have mine pluged into PC next to my desk
You could do everything else. xD

People kill to have good FPS in their games, its worth all the pennies you have.

[snarkomatic]

But you dont get 60-90 fps on top of it.
This is worth the money.



You get higher fps, the game is smooth and runs well.
You could play on your PC i have mine pluged into PC next to my desk
You could do everything else. xD

People kill to have good FPS in their games, its worth all the pennies you have.

The game is smooth and runs well on PS4. That's what we are trying to tell you.

Do you get better frame rates? Sure. But ours are perfectly fine as well ...

I did competitive endgame on ESO with PS4 frames and that game is optimized so poorly it actually makes a difference there -- and we still did pretty well for ourselves. On FF, it's night and day difference. No lag, no stutters, no telegraph or placement issues, nada.

I get that you're saying it's better on PC, and I don't disagree with that assertion; I just disagree that it makes such a massive difference as you guys like to suggest. The game has a what, 2-sec GCD? It isn't twitch gaming. The only time I feel even a little inferior is with targeting and add-ons (the latter being the bigger point of this thread, I guess).

I kill for paying bills at the end of the month and not feeling stretched between paychecks, not for marginal frame rate increases in MMOs of all things.

[Granyala]

Do you really think you can get a GTX 1070 for $100?

I think he bought the parts used.
It is possible to get them that cheap. Probably some crypto miner wanting to ditch his tortured card.