Alliance Roulette problem

[Blueyes]

You are right that this is an issue that will grow more prevalent as more people become aware. One way this can be addressed would be to dynamically adjust the minimum item level required to queue for Alliance Roulette based on the level of the job that is used to join. As an example, if you want to participate in roulette as a level 50 job, then you must meet a minimum item level of 70. If you want to participate in roulette as a level 60 job, then you must meet a minimum item level of 205. So on and so forth. Through luck of the draw, you may still find yourself in a lower level raid, but it would no longer be possible to force it.

[Awful]

The game takes a snapshot of your ilvl when you register for duty, so there's no need to stay in that gear until you enter the zone.

That's not what I'm saying at all, you can be lvl 70, remove gear to get under ilvl 50-70 and get LoTA/ST unlike MSQ dungeons which have no ilvl restrictions, Alliance raid roulette does so as long as you're between ilvl 50-70 you'll either get: LOTA or ST its a coin flip then swap to your full gear when you get inside. When there's ilvl checks for Alliance roulette and not MSQ dungeons you know somethings not right.

[Theskymarble]

Give me some names blurred out screenshots of people with the reduced gear showing it’s item level or I am calling this hand waving an excuse onto just random anecdotes.

Now if you have the proof then yeah, I agree you’re seeing a problem. WoW had this during one expac and they patched in a method to examine you based on the top gear in all your bags...

But let’s prove that accusation first.

How am I suppose to have a screenshot like that on hand? It isn't the first thing you think of doing when you see it or at least to me. If I go back in there and see it then I'll do it if I need to prove it but all I can say right now is if you just load in and see people with less hp then their max its probably because they put all their gear back on the moment they got in as they don't need to cheat gear at that point. All they need to do is have an item level of 70 to get Sycrus and LOTA and you only need a couple pieces of gear to reach that now and you can just remove the rest and once you get in just put it back on and your hp will go from 2k to at least 5k and you can see their hp building back up.

[Kuroka]

There are such ppl, i even know some and got at lest one in my FC that do that and yes it has to be locked, IE lv 60 job has to be aber to enter VA till Dun scaith, lv 70 all from Ivalice and even further for the normal raid roulet lv 70 ppl should have to have the omega raids unlocked and the needed ilvl.

[NzomiKujo]

LOTA or ST its a coin flip then swap to your full gear when you get inside.

and once you get in just put it back on and your hp will go from 2k to at least 5k and you can see their hp building back up.

You don't need to wait to get in to put your gear back on. You can put in it on after you register for the duty.

[Rescue78]

When there's ilvl checks for Alliance roulette and not MSQ dungeons you know somethings not right.

Alliance raids are considered end game while the MSQ is not end game.

People run this for the tomes/xp. Most people don't want to spend 30+ mins in there.

[alibutterfly]

Re: HP not being full at the start of the run, who's to say that person wasn't on another class while they waited for the queue and switched back to whatever class they queued with once the queue popped for them? Your health needs time to regen if you were on a class/job with a lower HP pool and then switch back to whatever you queued with that might have a higher one; there's no guarantee HP regen at the start of a run is a result of "gear cheesing" at the time the person entered the queue.

[Eli85]

There is a solution to this (though admittedly I don't run into this problem with near the frequency of others). When the 24-player raids enter the Alliance Roulette (so, when it's no longer current content), remove the item level restrictions and sync everyone to a minimum item level. Done, S-E. Problem solved.

[Awful]

Alliance raids are considered end game while the MSQ is not end game.

People run this for the tomes/xp. Most people don't want to spend 30+ mins in there.

I didn't know that ST, LOTA, Weeping City, Dun Scaith and the rest of the Ivalice Alliance raids were considered end game when the goal is to get EXP but okay, but yet it's okay for people to join Bardam's Mettle with an ilvl 120 book and an ilvl 39 ring and waste time and then add more time getting rid of them and getting a new healer? People run MSQ roulette and it can take 30+ mins and people can cheese it if they wanted to and people don't like that either, I don't care about it taking 20 mins I just want variety in Alliance Roulette, yes it's for EXP but being half awake in ST while hitting 3 buttons isn't riveting.

People just want faceroll content they don't wanna think and then when they finally get a 60+ raid they actually have to pay attention and not watch youtube, god forbid you have to pay attention in a 24 man raid.

You don't need to wait to get in to put your gear back on. You can put in it on after you register for the duty.

It's still part of the problem, people cheesing their ilvl regardless to get either LoTA/ST for quick and easy ques so that you don't ever have to touch the 60-70 raids.

[Theskymarble]

Re: HP not being full at the start of the run, who's to say that person wasn't on another class while they waited for the queue and switched back to whatever class they queued with once the queue popped for them? Your health needs time to regen if you were on a class/job with a lower HP pool and then switch back to whatever you queued with that might have a higher one; there's no guarantee HP regen at the start of a run is a result of "gear cheesing" at the time the person entered the queue.

That is true but I seen people at around 2500 or 3000 and then suddenly start regening hp because those numbers I just said aren't their max HP anymore.