WHM going to become black sheep of healers again

[Billythepancake]

and maybe also 1 hit ko everything and 1 heal that restore 100% hp to whole party ?
cmon sch is not good enough already need more bufs weakest healer in gaming history ever made

(sarcasm off)



you don't care but some of us care maybe too much ...

Asking for 1 more AoE option, and asking for a trait that we've already had, and for our fairies to not be just carbon copies isnt making scholar OP, or even if they made SCH too strong, how about you advocate for WHM and AST to be buffed along side SCH, because every healer needs some love right now. You want WHM to be at the top not because it was buffed there, but rather because the other 2 were dragged into the dirt.

And for someone who cares about meta, you have no logs up, you know, the ONLY reason meta matters. So if you're not parsing and uploading logs and climbing ranks why would you even consider meta instead of just how the class you like to play feels?

[Videra]

why any1 would pick whm that was bad over sch with godly tier or astro with godly bufs ?

lets say you have your faviorite food, lets say its hamburger (example)
you love your burger but there is day SE come and put poison to your burger, will you still eat it when is poisoned ?

same was with whm in the past, SE keep adding poison to my faviorite class (with patches) too much, that I had to leave it and pick another food called schoolar here ...

I can't eat my faviorite food cause is poisoned too much ...

This is all hyperbole, and you're an obvious troll. But if you want to do this line of thought? Because I find WHM fun, you absolute tart. I play all three healers, WHM takes up a fair chunk of my playtime because of the snappy healing kit that it has had for YEARS and the general smoothness of gameplay.

[gumas]

ASTRO got lot of buffs

more like ASTRO is finally gaining on WHM

its not about "oh WHM no buff this patch, GG guys WHM is bad again" you know? WHM is probably on top of healer chain right now, and you want more buff? be glad its not a nerf.

[Dynia]

Asking for 1 more AoE option, and asking for a trait that we've already had, and for our fairies to not be just carbon copies isnt making scholar OP, or even if they made SCH too strong, how about you advocate for WHM and AST to be buffed along side SCH, because every healer needs some love right now. You want WHM to be at the top not because it was buffed there, but rather because the other 2 were dragged into the dirt.

And for someone who cares about meta, you have no logs up, you know, the ONLY reason meta matters. So if you're bot parsing and uploading logs and climbing ranks why would you even consider meta instead of just how the class you like to play feels?

I just ask for buffs for whm in same time when SE bufs scholar and astro from the begin, I don't want to feel unwatned in party, I don't want to feel weak,
you know what ? I felt totally weak and useless in SB as WHM when I 1st tried SCH in there times ... EVERYTHING felt so much BETTER when i played SCH than WHM theres days
comunity asking for some kind of utility for whm for years without effect ...

[Dynia]

more like ASTRO is finally gaining on WHM

its not about "oh WHM no buff this patch, GG guys WHM is bad again" you know? WHM is probably on top of healer chain right now, and you want more buff? be glad its not a nerf.

oh yeah, history just show in 2 last expanions how SE balance healers and WHM ...

[TheRealQuah]

oh yeah, history just show in 2 last expanions how SE balance healers and WHM ...

In Heavensward - AST got changes and buff in 3.05, 3.07, 3.1, 3.2, 3.26, 3.3 and 3.4. Though we all know it was trash on release. No changes made to WHM or SCH throughout HW.
In Stormblood - WHM got buffed 4.05, 4.2, 4.5. SCH got buffed 4.05, 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 4.4. AST got buffed 4.2, 4.3, 4.4.

So none of them got buffs every patch like you say. In fact no buffs for anything other than AST in HW. Buffs were pretty uniform in SB.

You say people lock WHM and it's not wanted in raids.
In HW - 39% of raid clears were SCH, 31% were WHM, 29% were AST. In SB 37% SCH, 33% WHM, 30% AST. Scholar is marginally in front for both expansions, but they're pretty similar.

In ShB so far (Eden and EX) - 35% SCH, 50% WHM, 15% AST. Can you not see how somethings needs to be done with these figures. AST is so bad right now, it's DPS, HPS is inferior to both classes and it rDPS no where near makes up the difference.

[Purutsu]

I mean, whm only compares to ast right now because scholar is still pretty much mandatory (how surprising) and because square seems to think that direct damage should provide better dps output than buffs (also note that buffing is even worse at low player count or for leveling in this case).
Unless the balance changes to the opposite set of mind AST will ultimately always stay in the shed on top of providing the most painful leveling experience and requiring far more key press for lesser results with it's current design.
AST really doesn't have much more utility than WHM right now, the buffing aspect of the class is all damage increase and ultimately it pales to whm direct damage ouput, the healing is far better now but i'm not convinced it's better than whm either, at least it's not a masochistic class anymore but there's still no real reason to bring them over whm depise getting some pretty impressive buffs this patch. Ultimately they only proved that three healer never made sense with this expansion and that adding a fourth will only make things worse.

[Hatstand]

im perfectionist im always pick best option and I also want the best option be my faviorite
always min/maxing my character in any rpg game
also what wrong if some1 want his main be good ?

What if there are ASTs out there who feel the same? Or SCHs? Other healers who want their class to be the best. Making one group of such players happy will necessarily make the others unhappy, so any effort expended to appease such players is ultimately a waste. Unless the healers are identical, there will always be a “best” healer combination and a “worst” healer as decided by the people who care about those things. We need to focus on making sure that all the healers are fun, viable, and as closed to balanced as we can get without sacrificing the fun.

[nalol]

im perfectionist im always pick best option and I also want the best option be my faviorite
always min/maxing my character in any rpg game
also what wrong if some1 want his main be good ?

just good or uncontested good ?

whm don't need buffs. SCH is good healer but still below in dps and AST still below in dps also and needed the buffs. whm has nothing to worry about right now.

if SCH and AST continue to get buffs and whm nothing .. then u may start to worry .. but for now whm is still good

[EpicOverlord85]

and maybe also 1 hit ko everything and 1 heal that restore 100% hp to whole party ?
cmon sch is not good enough already need more bufs weakest healer in gaming history ever made

(sarcasm off)

This is exactly why no one is taking you seriously and the idea that you are simply trolling becomes more and more logical.