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  1. #31
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    Hatstand's Avatar
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    Jenny Davar
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    Kujata
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    Weaver Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Dynia View Post
    its not hard to find that on forum every SCH QQ that he lost half of his dps skills ...
    Yes. We complain that we lost the complexity of our kits. I want 2 15 potency DoTs instead of one 30 potency. Or one 20 one 10. I am 100% happy for WHM to remain ahead in the dps numbers race, and I have not seen a single SCH disagree with that. Heck, if they needed to increase the potency of Glare to 1000 and decrease the potency of Broil 3 to 100 to keep it balanced I would support that.

    Please, find me a single instance of SCH's asking explicitly for bigger dps numbers.
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  2. #32
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    Saefinn's Avatar
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    Yesunova Hotgo
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    Balmung
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dynia View Post
    its not hard to find that on forum every SCH QQ that he lost half of his dps skills ...
    More than half. But we got one back.

    You're complaining about WHM, though there are many inaccuracies in the statements you've made there are still reasons to complain about WHM.
    SCH and AST got shafted too. Which is why, like you, they also have complaints.

    At the end of the day everybody wants to enjoy playing their healer job. I don't get why you have such a grudge against the issues of other healers. Most of the feedback I've seen since ShB hasn't been attacking WHM. Most of the time it has been a case of people supporting the idea of bringing WHM up and not dragging the other healers down. I'm a SCH, I don't want to be OP, I want to enjoy my job. I would like to see WHM's enjoy their jobs. I want to see AST's enjoy their job. Because each and everyone of us were invested in our jobs, we picked them up and found something we love in them and changes have taken that away. For WHM it was gradual, for SCH/AST it was less so. Now we're all in the same boat, so I don't see why there's a need to bicker about it.

    All this patch literally did was close some of the balance issues from ShB and 1 or 2 QoL things. There's still problems. We're still gonna present feedback until they're addressed. You're welcome to join us, but please, use facts and not misinformation and lose the chip on your shoulder against other healers.
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  3. #33
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    Connor's Avatar
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    Connor Whelan
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 100
    Maybe I’m wrong but it’s not like Energy Drain is some huge DPS increase? It’s 150 potency and you probably aren’t going to have a happy cohealer if you use every single Aetherflow on it. It’s more quality of life than anything else I guess, making the job more enjoyable than more powerful.

    Astrologian needed some love for its healing kit, and now it just seems to be more in line with the other two healers
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  4. #34
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    Lunafreya's Avatar
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    Ellia Lombardia
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    Lamia
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    Dancer Lv 90
    LMAO WHM IS OVERPOWERED as hell currently.
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  5. #35
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    Numenor1379's Avatar
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    Lucius Magnus
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    Famfrit
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lunafreya View Post
    LMAO WHM IS OVERPOWERED as hell currently.
    No, it really isn't.
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  6. #36
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    Enla's Avatar
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Hatstand View Post
    Yes. We complain that we lost the complexity of our kits. I want 2 15 potency DoTs instead of one 30 potency. Or one 20 one 10. I am 100% happy for WHM to remain ahead in the dps numbers race, and I have not seen a single SCH disagree with that. Heck, if they needed to increase the potency of Glare to 1000 and decrease the potency of Broil 3 to 100 to keep it balanced I would support that.

    Please, find me a single instance of SCH's asking explicitly for bigger dps numbers.
    This. Hell most of us would take a DPS hit /just/ to get our former kit back. Most of us don't care about SCH being top DPS, we care about how bored we currently are with the current iteration of SCH. Even just giving us our old dots back would be /something/ of a step in the right direction even if it ended up to be a no-DPS gain sort of situation.
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  7. #37
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    Lutemis Rangar
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    Adamantoise
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    Jesus Christ I wasn’t expected this thread.
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  8. #38
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    Veliona Umrtia
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dynia View Post
    and you want to tell me whm was good in HW and SB ?
    What does this have to do with anything? All you're doing is spitting incoherent babble that doesn't make any sense. OMG they gave back SCH energy drain? That clearly means WHM is a dead job. Seriously just stop, this is seriously embarassing.
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  9. #39
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    Laria Kirin
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    Spriggan
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    This. Hell most of us would take a DPS hit /just/ to get our former kit back. Most of us don't care about SCH being top DPS, we care about how bored we currently are with the current iteration of SCH. Even just giving us our old dots back would be /something/ of a step in the right direction even if it ended up to be a no-DPS gain sort of situation.
    Nonsense. AST is plenty busy during downtime, but I don't see people swarming to play it. WHM didn't change much, but people suddenly find it fun? Please. It's not a coincidence that the most liked job is the one with the highest numbers.

    Thanks SE for Energy Drain. That is all SCH needed.
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  10. #40
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    Evelynn Outreguerlain
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    Diabolos
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by LariaKirin View Post
    Nonsense. AST is plenty busy during downtime, but I don't see people swarming to play it. WHM didn't change much, but people suddenly find it fun? Please. It's not a coincidence that the most liked job is the one with the highest numbers.

    Thanks SE for Energy Drain. That is all SCH needed.
    AST is busy for mediocre payoff, and there are some people who do enjoy big numbers, but most of us arent those people.
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    Make SCH great again! Seriously though, we just want our class to be fun and engaging again, not OP, is that too much to ask for?

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