Please let PS4 parse our dps like pc

[Caitsithhh]

I think it's paranoia to not even allow personal parsers. YoshiP has addressed this. He doesn't want to add them because he fears others will force people into telling them their parse. Which is pretty ridiculous.

Exactly!!!! Unless in savage or speed clears nobody gives af....

[Demetri_Delethorn]

You are not obligated to reply nor stalk me. Please cease in doing so. I stand by all I have said, and will not be swayed otherwise. This thread is a different conversation, one in which I should be permitted to explain my stance on without being harassed by others from another topic.

[Dahlia_Faye]

Yes, please. Just a personal DPS counter would be nice.
I understand SE's stance on it, but the way it is right now it's hurting players that don't parse.

Good luck getting into a static if all your parses are uploaded by randoms. Right now I have zero control on what performance data is being uploaded about me.

I might be on an alt job or it was a chaotic run. Being a healer my DPS mostly depends on the party's performance and how much extra healing and rezzing they need. If someone uploads a parse where I was rezing and healing the first timers all the time, it won't look good.

[Granyala]

Yes, please. Just a personal DPS counter would be nice.
I understand SE's stance on it, but the way it is right now it's hurting players that don't parse.
Good luck getting into a static if all your parses are uploaded by randoms. Right now I have zero control on what performance data is being uploaded about me.
I might be on an alt job or it was a chaotic run. Being a healer my DPS mostly depends on the party's performance and how much extra healing and rezzing they need. If someone uploads a parse where I was rezing and healing the first timers all the time, it won't look good.

That's not how recruitment works.
People that analyze logs will not only analyze your performance but the performance of the whole raid. They will see that you rezzed, they will see that they ate a ton of avoidable damage.

Most importantly: they will take you to trial runs to assess your performance in a more controlled environment.
We all know random raids can be chaotic.

I really wish people would understand that productive log analysis goes way beyond E-Peen DPS/HPS or %ile numbers.
Sure E-Peen can be a lot of fun on farm bosses but E-peen isn't the reason most raids look at logs.

You are not obligated to reply nor stalk me.

You indirectly referred to me, accusing me of being inable to assess given data. Yes I do feel obligated to respond in such a case.
No stalking involved, I saw the quote per chance.

You seem to be confused on the concept of accountability. Who are you to hold someone else “accountable” if they’re doing mechanics? Are you only parsing when you’re group leader or are you just joining someone else’s group and deciding yourself to hold others accountable? DPS parses aren’t “accountability” but that mentality is exactly why FFXIV benefits from not having them as a support add on.

You're tank.
Lets say I am your healer. I have to do a mechanic and while that happens you eat a tank buster, aren't topped off (b/c I did a mechanic, remember?) and you die.

Now what are the odds that you will hold ME accountable for your death because I followed the mechanic w/o optimizing my play (a.k.a. using isntant casts / stutter step casting etc) and failed to keep you alive?

I'd say 100%. As you should because you died due to my crappy performance (despite me handling the mechanic correctly).

Now I am the DPS. I do a mechanic. I do not DPS during that. My performace is subsequently pretty crap because I have a lot of time I am inactive in. When I am active, I do my schtick correctly, good rotation etc. But in the end my DPS is still too low to beat the enrage and the other DPS cannot compensate for my lacking ability to handle mechanics AND keeping up the pressure on the boss.

Should I not be accountable for that just as the healer in the example above? Why should my inadequate performance be shielded from scrutiny?!
Why should 7 other players wipe repeatedly due to that fact?

SE's stance on parsers is completely illogical and unjust. Part of the playerbase gets to derp however they want and none is the wiser while another parts tiniest mistakes are readily visible and are being punished immediately. Parsers only do one thing: they even the playing field in terms of responsibility between DPS and Healers/Tanks.

[JowyAtreides]

Parsing has no place in normal content, but in extreme trials/savage it absolutely has a place and people should be allowed to talk about it.

I don't get why we're not allowed to say anything to the bard only pulling 4k when the boss enrages at 5%, because apparently we're supposed to take it on the chin when people play subpar on high end content even if it's costing the entire party a clear.

In my opinion, it should be obvious when people aren't pulling their weight. You don't need to know the specific numbers to know this.

[Hash_Browns]

Parsing has no place in normal content, but in extreme trials/savage it absolutely has a place and people should be allowed to talk about it.

I don't get why we're not allowed to say anything to the bard only pulling 4k when the boss enrages at 5%, because apparently we're supposed to take it on the chin when people play subpar on high end content even if it's costing the entire party a clear.

As someone who has seen 30% Innocence EX enrage.. I believe parsing has a place in all content.
People think that underwhelming damage in normal content is acceptable to bring into farm parties for the EX content.

I've never been one to shame people for the DPS they do when I play, but you would be surprised at the number of people even in normal content who you can out-dps as a tank & healer.

You are not obligated to reply nor stalk me. Please cease in doing so. I stand by all I have said, and will not be swayed otherwise. This thread is a different conversation, one in which I should be permitted to explain my stance on without being harassed by others from another topic.

Can you stop trying to deflect your grey parses.

[Kleeya]

"Hey SE, can we have parsers please ? It will not bring any toxicity in the game !"

*Immediatly start on the official forums a several pages long quote war about someone underperforming, using nice terms like "rekt" and "liar"* XD

Irony aside when i see the numbers of healers who keep dpsing instead of rezzing or healing when needed, i have a hard time believing that bringing personnal parsers to even more healers is not gonna have any bad consequences. Well, at least with the last combat changes we have not anymore the problem of tanks losing aggro to dps more.

[Hash_Browns]

Irony aside when i see the numbers of healers who keep dpsing instead of rezzing or healing when needed, i have a hard time believing that bringing personnal parsers to even more healers is not gonna have any bad consequences. Well, at least with the last combat changes we have not anymore the problem of tanks losing aggro to dps more.

When someone is dead weight, and the healer decides not to res them as soon as they die, that's not on the healer. Honestly, I don't get why healers are blamed when someone dies to avoidable damage, or when the healer is doing damage instead of keeping people at 100% health. People don't need to be topped off.

[Granyala]

Irony aside when i see the numbers of healers who keep dpsing instead of rezzing or healing when needed, i have a hard time believing that bringing personnal parsers to even more healers is not gonna have any bad consequences. Well, at least with the last combat changes we have not anymore the problem of tanks losing aggro to dps more.

Honestly, as someone coming from WoW which features(d)? a "pure healer" approach:
I think that is less a problem of parsers and more of a problem with how absurdly obsessed the FF-XIV community is with healers DPS.

I'm all for filling downtime etc but at times I find the fact that healers seem to define themselves by being a green 1 button mashing DPS a wee bit disturbing.

If it were up to me, I'd still shift the design towards even more healing and less downtime because, if you ask me: there is nothing more boring than mashing the glare button +100x during a boss pull b/c the boss can't seem to be arsed to do some damage to the raid.

[Mezzoforte]

All of our dps data is being uploaded and PC players watch their dps like a hawk and upload it. This is fine, I would just like the option to also be able to watch my dps.

I just started doing Eden and ex'es and yep my parse is hot garbage from what some pc players must have logged of my performance.

Please give ps4 players a way to track their dps. Even if it's just our dps that would be fine. I don't care what others are doing really. I'm just trying to improve my own crappy play.

I've passed the stone, sky, sea thing it's not good enough. I practiced on these before I went in to ex. It's not like being in the fights at all because there are no mechanics to dodge.

I know "get a PC". I can't afford one. Yes, I I'm a loser that sucks at life and need to get a job.. this is not an option for me at the moment as I'm a gimp (gimps have a lot of time for mmorpgs)

Moving on. Fflogs is an enormous part of XIV endgame. Accept it and give us the tools to work with it please.

They aren't "letting" anyone use parsers. They are against the ToS. You have some pretty stiff risks using any. That is just one of those many reasons people use PC over PS4 for online stuff.