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  1. #101
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    Veliona Umrtia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abstral View Post
    You seem to be confused on the concept of accountability. Who are you to hold someone else “accountable” if they’re doing mechanics? Are you only parsing when you’re group leader or are you just joining someone else’s group and deciding yourself to hold others accountable? DPS parses aren’t “accountability” but that mentality is exactly why FFXIV benefits from not having them as a support add on.
    So riddle me this. Let's say for arguments sake, that everyone in your savage group is doing all the mechanics perfectly 100%, but your wiping every single attempt because someone in your group's damage is way below the mark to beat the enrage, who is accountable here? Parsers are a two way street, they benefit the game through feeding the player base information on optimal rotations, melds and help the developers by means of a visible display where all the jobs stand in the most difficult content, but they also tell you how your entire raid is performing and if adjustments need to be made. It can help those who are struggling perform better and in worse case scenario ( The one point that has been the focal point of contention between the player base for years) replace those who are under performing and are showing no signs of improvement.
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  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    PVP already tracks the total damage that players deal (and shares it with everyone at the end, to boot). The "complicated process" is already built in to the game.

    https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/m...ry_screen1.png
    Not to mention it's been stated that developers already have in-game parser. It's how they balance things. The parser is just inaccessible by us.
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn View Post
    Nah. I reported a guy today openly talking about his parser use in chat. Felt good to do my part for the community.
    You could get warned or banned for false reporting. As long as he is not harrasing anyone with it, he did not made a bannable offense.
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    You could get warned or banned for false reporting. As long as he is not harrasing anyone with it, he did not made a bannable offense.
    The situation at hand warranted a report. Trust me, there was no false reporting.
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  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn View Post
    The situation at hand warranted a report. Trust me, there was no false reporting.
    If he speaked about it, didnt name call anyone or criticized someone directly, he wont get anything.
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  6. #106
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    No thanks. Not in mood to have an entire playerbase having instant access to such toxic material. It's one of the benefits to being a PS4 player in my experience.

    I get that there is an element of self improvement possible from it and that some people would help others to up their game.

    But can you sit there, hand on heart and say you think this is the majority of players?
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    Not to mention it's been stated that developers already have in-game parser. It's how they balance things. The parser is just inaccessible by us.
    Like I mention earlier I believe, it is the extra manpower require to deal with the possible increase conflict and report when it become official. It is a lot more resource for very little reward for SE. Furthermore, it is literally like shooting themsevle in the foot situation for SE. When a tool can be misuse, it is gonna be misuse
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  8. #108
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    Okami Amaterasuu
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    Quote Originally Posted by JowyAtreides View Post
    No thanks. Not in mood to have an entire playerbase having instant access to such toxic material. It's one of the benefits to being a PS4 player in my experience.

    I get that there is an element of self improvement possible from it and that some people would help others to up their game.

    But can you sit there, hand on heart and say you think this is the majority of players?
    Parsing has no place in normal content, but in extreme trials/savage it absolutely has a place and people should be allowed to talk about it.

    I don't get why we're not allowed to say anything to the bard only pulling 4k when the boss enrages at 5%, because apparently we're supposed to take it on the chin when people play subpar on high end content even if it's costing the entire party a clear.
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  9. #109
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    Laernu Tairos
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    And this is why parsing will remain a 3rd party thing LOL
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  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misutoraru View Post
    Like I mention earlier I believe, it is the extra manpower require to deal with the possible increase conflict and report when it become official. It is a lot more resource for very little reward for SE. Furthermore, it is literally like shooting themsevle in the foot situation for SE. When a tool can be misuse, it is gonna be misuse
    I think it's paranoia to not even allow personal parsers. YoshiP has addressed this. He doesn't want to add them because he fears others will force people into telling them their parse. Which is pretty ridiculous.
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