5.05 Healer Changes

[Naychan]

I’m super happy to see Ed back just wish atherflow mastery came with it. Love the healing changes to Astro now I won’t shudder when I see them in group with me. Very pleased they didn’t nerf whm, I know everybody was expecting it but it didn’t happen. Yet they are still complaining. ED is not going to bring sch up to your dps level it’s literally just there for dumps it’s not worth weaving unless we are sitting on stacks.

Now I will admit I don’t know what QOL changes whm needs cause I have not read their threads. The reason being is they insist on jumping into sch and Astro threads telling us to suck it up and deal with it & how it’s white mages turn to shine. Also that we deserve to see what it felt like to be ignored. Seriously some of you (not all) are just toxic (you know who you are). Even though they didn’t touch you, it does not change the fact that your still on top for heals and pDPS. I hope you all get the QOL changes your looking for if for no other reason then you will leave the rest of us alone.

[KokonoeAiyoko]

Remove art of war and give back bane pls

No thanks. Add both.

[Almostward]

Well scholar got energy drain back so good for them.

Astro got.......nothing back.... I wish I never mained that class

[Nathanial]

I might not be doing the math right but isnt astro shields still much more potent then scholars almost 100% of the time? What even is scholar shields? Why don't we just turn astro into the perminate shield class and make scholars straight heals.

[Hydrium]

Absolutely sourgrapes about Energy Drain coming back. Gameplay wise Energy Drain does one thing: Makes it feel bad to use healing aetherflow. If damage aetherflow is an option it will ALWAYS make using healing aetherflow feel bad. Always. Sacred Soil got some amazing frequent use with the new Sch and not we're going to go back to only using it seldom to negate big damage. Your designers knew what they were doing when they removed Energy Drain and to bring it back because people who don't understand class design are crying about wanting more damage is just incredibly disappointing.

Astro changes are great. I wanted the gravity cast time and horoscope duration changes so I'm happy about those. I didn't expect sleeve draw to change at all but it looks good. I'm a little bit curious why Ast shields get nerfed but sch shields don't. Considering how strong sch shielding can be.

If you're gimping your healing just because it "feels bad" to you then you weren't much of a healer in the first place.
Resources get used where resources are needed whether it's healing or damage.

No one is going to stop casting Sacred Soil lol.

[Seraphor]

I might not be doing the math right but isnt astro shields still much more potent then scholars almost 100% of the time? What even is scholar shields? Why don't we just turn astro into the perminate shield class and make scholars straight heals.

On the surface, it does kinda look like that.
Adlo: 375 potency shield
Succor: 225 AoE

A. Benefic: 500
A. Helios: 250 AoE

Plus AST has Celestial Opposition for another 250 potency AoE shield.
(Intersection would be used in isolation in Diurnal so can't really be added to the list)

However, Scholar can do a lot more with its Shields via Tactics, spreading that Adlo to all party members, converting them into pure healing, plus it can garrantee a double shield for Adlo making it a 750 potency shield.
Then there's Excog, which is a sort of pseudo shield with a whopping 800 potency.

[NorthernLadMSP]

I'm very happy with the changes. Now, SE please just leave healers alone for awhile.

WHM was left awesome. SCH improvements, especially ED back! AST fixes to really improve some of the crap CDs they had.

[Hatstand]

I'm very happy with the changes. Now, SE please just leave healers alone for awhile.

WHM was left awesome. SCH improvements, especially ED back! AST fixes to really improve some of the crap CDs they had.

These changes helped. But downtime is still a complete drag and it remains to be seen whether the AST changes will put them to the right level.

[NorthernLadMSP]

These changes helped. But downtime is still a complete drag and it remains to be seen whether the AST changes will put them to the right level.

Honestly, I'm convinced a lot of people around here won't be happy until their healer is on untouchable God level in every aspect.

I'm really good with these changes.

[Hatstand]

Honestly, I'm convinced a lot of people around here won't be happy until their healer is on untouchable God level in every aspect.

I'm really good with these changes.

SCHs aren’t asking for bigger numbers. We’re asking for our job to be as fun as it used to be. Which it’s not (in my opinion, and based on others’ posts I think many people agree). I don’t think that’s too big of an ask.