5.05 Healer Changes

**Hatstand** · 07-30-2019 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by DenzelVilliers

I don't like this at all, as always WHM has been forgotten while SCH/AST get buffed. With that "balance" we are never gonna met a new healer job in this game and WHM is always be left behind.

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My suggestions for WHM:

- Thin Air 90 secs CD.
- Medica, Medica II and Holy with 2.0 secs Cast time just like AST ones.
- Medica with 330 Potency just like AST or 340~350 Potency.
- Regen with 21 Secs to compensate Aspected Benefic initial Heal with a Extra Tic, just like it was before.
- Cure II, Medica and Medica II get MP Reduction cost ( like AST that has same potency and cost less MP ) or Potency Increase.
- Add a new Lilly for every 20 Secs instead 30.

SCH was already perfect to me, now with Energy Drain returns is amazing. AST i have nothing to complain about their Healing now, just give our Cards effects Back for the love of God.

I agree with you that WHM could use some QoL upgrades, and maybe some buffs, can’t judge until we know how this patch is working. However, from my own experience playing WHM, I’d say a big problem is lots of weaving tools (instant Afflatus, etc.) but not enough things to weave in. If they’re going to reduce the cast times on WHM’s heals, I’d also like to see an instant ability or two for them to regularly weave. (As opposed to the long cooldowns they have now).

(Although I disagree that SCH is perfect. Break Biolysis down into two smaller DoTs, return bane, add a second fairy, and let me manually control embraces off the gcd and I’ll be happy. Not that these changes are the most important things any healer needs, but they are certainly things that are needed before SCH can be considered “perfect”, imo.)

**Dynia** · 07-30-2019 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by DenzelVilliers

SCH was already perfect to me, now with Energy Drain returns is amazing.

op mana battery skill is back hell yes, now lets give even more boosts to SCH and astro that will kick WHM from raids once again ...

Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry

A lot of people, who probably never played WHM or just recently started thinks WHM is broken and OP, when in reality the other jobs are just lacking and WHM hasn't changed.

agree 100%

**MOZZYSTAR** · 07-30-2019 07:16 PM

People keep saying AST's been buffed, which its healing potency and gravity DPS potency has, but... why are we not talking about the elephant in the room? /Gestures to drastic decrease of shield potencies/ Not only that but the cards are still shit. It doesn't look like they changed it back to arrow = speed, etc. Celestial opposition still isn't a stun. We haven't gotten back some of our strategic skills. Blahblahblah. I'm happy the healing potencies are higher, but I'm still distressed over everything else.

Scholar may have gotten energy drain (and that's a start), but its DPS skills? Still not there.

**Seraphor** · 07-30-2019 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by MOZZYSTAR

People keep saying AST's been buffed, which its healing potency and gravity DPS potency has, but... why are we not talking about the elephant in the room? /Gestures to drastic decrease of shield potencies/ Not only that but the cards are still shit. It doesn't look like they changed it back to arrow = speed, etc. Celestial opposition still isn't a stun. We haven't gotten back some of our strategic skills. Blahblahblah. I'm happy the healing potencies are higher, but I'm still distressed over everything else.

Scholar may have gotten energy drain (and that's a start), but its DPS skills? Still not there.

Er... Noct shields haven't been nerfed.

Celestial Opposition:
・Healing potency has been increased from 100 to 200.
・Barrier's damage nullification reduced from 150% to 125%.

That's a buff of a 150 effective potency shield, to a 250 potency shield.

Aspected Helios:
・Healing potency has been increased from 100 to 200.
・Barrier's damage nullification reduced from 250% to 125%.

That's breaking even. 250 potency shield for a 250 potency shield, but now with extra healing.

**Hatstand** · 07-30-2019 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by MOZZYSTAR

People keep saying AST's been buffed, which its healing potency and gravity DPS potency has, but... why are we not talking about the elephant in the room? /Gestures to drastic decrease of shield potencies/ Not only that but the cards are still shit. It doesn't look like they changed it back to arrow = speed, etc. Celestial opposition still isn't a stun. We haven't gotten back some of our strategic skills. Blahblahblah. I'm happy the healing potencies are higher, but I'm still distressed over everything else.

Scholar may have gotten energy drain (and that's a start), but its DPS skills? Still not there.

Absolutely agree that we’re not there yet, but have AST shields been nerfed? To my understanding, the shield percentage is a percentage of the healing potency. Healing potencies went up, percentages went down, but looking at the numbers it seems like the amount of shield should be the same or more than what you had before. They weren’t nerfed. They just weren’t buffed along with the heals. Whether they should have been buffed is another question.

**LariaKirin** · 07-30-2019 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by MOZZYSTAR

People keep saying AST's been buffed, which its healing potency and gravity DPS potency has, but... why are we not talking about the elephant in the room? /Gestures to drastic decrease of shield potencies/ Not only that but the cards are still shit. It doesn't look like they changed it back to arrow = speed, etc. Celestial opposition still isn't a stun. We haven't gotten back some of our strategic skills. Blahblahblah. I'm happy the healing potencies are higher, but I'm still distressed over everything else.

Scholar may have gotten energy drain (and that's a start), but its DPS skills? Still not there.

Do you realise that changing the potency of Aspected Helios from 100 to 200 while keeping barrier at 250% would be a stronger crit Adlo Deploy with no cooldown?
Do you realise that Aspected Helios shield is now stronger than non-crit Succor?

Yes, when you double something's potency, you decrease the shields.

Cards are not shit, they are better than fish-for-balance. Maybe the removal of the slot machine RNG will bring more players to AST. I am considering it.

**MOZZYSTAR** · 07-30-2019 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by LariaKirin

Do you realise that changing the potency of Aspected Helios from 100 to 200 while keeping barrier at 250% would be of a stronger crit Adlo Deploy with no cooldown?
Do you realise that Aspected Helios shield is now stronger than non-crit Succor?

Yes, when you double something's potency, you decrease the shields.

Cards are not shit, they are better than fish-for-balance. Maybe the removal of the slot machine RNG will bring more players to AST. I am considering it.

I did realise, but what I don't understand is why they had to decrease the shields when the healing potency was the only problem. I get "balance," but AST was always on the low end.

And the cards are shit. There were already tons of AST before 5.0, so it's not like it needed to cater to more of playerbase who didn't already appreciate its design and intended use.

Enjoy playing it, with one little buff per person at a time in a party of 8.~ Don't worry, DNC, BRD, and potentially other classes got the AoE buffs down pat. They'll carry your weight as a synergist.

**Seraphor** · 07-30-2019 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by MOZZYSTAR

I did realise, but what I don't understand is why they had to decrease the shields when the healing potency was the only problem. I get "balance," but AST was always on the low end.

They didn't decrease the shields. They've kept them the same, for Aspected Helios at least, and buffed them for Celestial Opposition.

**LariaKirin** · 07-30-2019 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by MOZZYSTAR

I did realise, but what I don't understand is why they had to decrease the shields when the healing potency was the only problem. I get "balance," but AST was always on the low end.

Aspected Helios
Old: 100 Potency, 250% Shield = 250 potency shield
New: 200 Potency, 125% Shield = 250 potency shield

CO
Old: 100 Potency, 150% Shield = 150 potency shield
New: 200 Potency, 125% Shield = 250 potency shield

CI
Old: 150 Potency, 250% Shield = 375 potency shield
New: 200 Potency, 200% Shield = 400 potency shield
CI is now a 30 sec cooldown crit Adlo Deploy.

**MOZZYSTAR** · 07-30-2019 07:37 PM

I'm sorry for being so unpleasant. I'm just so frustrated with the healer business it's unreal. This fustration has been going on an entire month it's burning me out. I should just stop looking at the healer stuff. There's really no point anymore.

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