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  1. #71
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    Crushnight's Avatar
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    Jets Down
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesarthim View Post
    SCH job guide updated to show energy drain with

    "Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 150.
    Additional Effect: Absorbs a portion of damage dealt as HP and restores MP
    Additional Effect: Increases Faerie Gauge by 10
    Aetherflow Gauge Cost: 1"

    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/scholar/

    It isn't giving us aetherflow. It's using an aetherflow.
    so they are finally giving the same skill to 2 different jobs with 2 different effects so why can't smn have a useable physick?
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  2. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatstand View Post
    Where did they say this?
    My assumption based on current Energy drain on smn since it is the exact same named skill i thought was going to work the same apparently i was wrong
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  3. #73
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Yeah I can't believe they didn't even bother to rename the skill, and instead we now have two different skills on two different jobs that do two entirely different things but share the name.


    Giving SCH Energy Drain as a DPS Aetherflow dump was something that was severely needed. But it needs much more than that to make it fun to play again.
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  4. #74
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    Billythepancake's Avatar
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    Evelynn Outreguerlain
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    Yeah I can't believe they didn't even bother to rename the skill, and instead we now have two different skills on two different jobs that do two entirely different things but share the name.


    Giving SCH Energy Drain as a DPS Aetherflow dump was something that was severely needed. But it needs much more than that to make it fun to play again.
    I agree, I'm hoping 5.1 has more changes for healers, and I'm thinking maybe they didnt want to change them too much now because of savage being new.
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    Make SCH great again! Seriously though, we just want our class to be fun and engaging again, not OP, is that too much to ask for?

  5. #75
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    Enla's Avatar
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by msoltyspl View Post
    SCH is still a boring, unimaginative, shallow corpse of a class it was before - in context of enjoyment of the gameplay. The joke potency changes (along with re-adding energy drain) are nowhere need bridging that ridiculous damage gap it's behind WHM.

    At least you got your dump key back.
    I'll take it as a step in the right direction honestly. Especially since I'm fairly, and sadly, sure the boring mess they turned healers into is here to stay. Having at least one small quality of life change is better than none - even if I desperately miss the complexity of old SCH and would jump at the chance to have it back in a heartbeat.
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  6. #76
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    Nalol Inta
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    Louisoix
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Yeah I'm mixed about ED changes.

    lazy me liked that I didn't feel the need to use all my stacks when AF was up again (especially if didn't need mana)

    also we get ED back but not the trait that lowers AF CD ... so my bet is we're gonna use dissipation more ... but not for healing.

    it's just I feel ... there is some design issues .. what I'd do is put ED on a 30 sec CD but not use AF stacks ... or something similar
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  7. #77
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    Yesunova Hotgo
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    Balmung
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by nalol View Post
    Yeah I'm mixed about ED changes.

    lazy me liked that I didn't feel the need to use all my stacks when AF was up again (especially if didn't need mana)

    also we get ED back but not the trait that lowers AF CD ... so my bet is we're gonna use dissipation more ... but not for healing.

    it's just I feel ... there is some design issues .. what I'd do is put ED on a 30 sec CD but not use AF stacks ... or something similar
    I think people wanted it on AF so they have something to dump excessive AF stacks on
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  8. #78
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    Character
    Quilia Labro
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    Yeah I can't believe they didn't even bother to rename the skill, and instead we now have two different skills on two different jobs that do two entirely different things but share the name.


    Giving SCH Energy Drain as a DPS Aetherflow dump was something that was severely needed. But it needs much more than that to make it fun to play again.
    In the Live Letter thread here's been several questions about the Healer adjustments and also seen a couple about general feel about jobs outside of high-level content. Hoping this to be adressed and for me, Scholar in particular.

    Best outcome I'm wishing for is they announcing a rejoining of ACN abilities and full fairy control or added back under other names. If not, I'm positive they can come with up something other than Ruin/Broil I/II/III and Biolysis (and now with occasional ED).
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  9. #79
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    Sanghelios's Avatar
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    Zeniba Zhiya
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    Um, so? Making it meta again was never the point. It was to balance them with the other healers.
    You shouldn't want any job buffed into meta.
    Healers are, as of right now, pretty nicely balanced.
    No, not really. AST is still far behind in rdps contribution and their healing kit still sucks compared to what WHM has. Even tho AST is much harder to play than WHM, this is leaving WHM in lead in both aspects by a large margin. This is by no means balanced.
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  10. #80
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    Ceasaria Pheonixia
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    Moogle
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Energy Drain back, which mean more dps, more mana recovery, less boring (even if not as satisfying as before), SCH has now nothing to worry (Nocturnal AST, where are you ?).
    But for AST, I just wonder how people can say it's fine now.
    Half of their changes are artifices.
    Sure, Divination, Sleeve Draw (still 3 min cd) and Celestial Opposition are better now, but compared to SB AST and other healers ? No, still underpowered in every departement.
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    Last edited by Ceasaria; 07-30-2019 at 05:42 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    All I want is one expansion where they reanalyze the jobs and make massive adjustments to unhomogenize them. This is Final Fantasy 14 not Club penguin I dont wish for jobs that only have 5 buttons going for them or play exactly the same as 2/3 other jobs.
    Quote Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura View Post
    This current card system needs to be unwritten, destroyed and never returned.

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