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  1. #61
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    Risvertasashi's Avatar
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Selova View Post
    WHM doesnt gave any issues.
    While WHM isn't in a bad spot, there are still QoL issues. Clipping, PoM's weird CD causing alignment issues, lily's being the most punishing resource to lose on death since their cooldown doesn't start until revived, etc.

    Note that this is not a request for buffs. But WHM is not exactly perfect, either.
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  2. #62
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    Exiled_Tonberry's Avatar
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Selova View Post
    WHM doesnt gave any issues. The small potency buffs AST got and SCH getting ED back isnt going to bump them out of the meta. Not by a long shot.
    I do want to say one thing towards this.
    Everyone said this exact same thing in 4.3 was it? When malefic got it's 1.5s cast time. Everyone said it wouldn't effect damage, but it did; by an absurd amount.
    The same might not be the case for Energy Drain, but remember that if a SCH wills it, they can push out 3 every minute. With Recitation being a thing it's not too far fetched to say this might not be the case at times.

    I'm not saying it will be, I'm just saying people were wrong before.
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  3. #63
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    Ahrijlaken's Avatar
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    Ahri Eija
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 76
    I can take AST/SCH back ... WHM was so boring, thanks god.
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  4. #64
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    Saefinn's Avatar
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    Yesunova Hotgo
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    White Mage isn’t in a bad spot in terms of balance, but is in terms of QoL and fun factor. But at the moment I think they’re issues we are all sharing as healers. Being a healer got boring.
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  5. #65
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    Axzeriuth's Avatar
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    Axzer Riuth
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 80
    Lightspeed - Recast time reduced from 120 to 90 seconds.
    Hyper Lightspeed - Effect changed from "Reduces Lightspeed recast time by 10 seconds upon executing Essential Dignity" to "Reduces Lightspeed recast time to 90 seconds."

    So... Is the base recast timer for Light speed 90 seconds or does the Hyper light speed trait make it 90?
    Cause if the base is 90 then the trait became pointless.
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  6. #66
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    Zolvolt's Avatar
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    Zolmation Volt
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Rubiss View Post
    Are you insane? Energy Drain came back because we needed a way to dump excess Aetherflow. Using it to heal SHOULD ONLY feel bad if you could have, as a team, not needed that heal to survive. That's how literally every heal in this game should be though of. Every Cure II could have been a Glare. Every Adloquium could have been a Broil III. You will ALWAYS feel bad about using a heal over damage if you don't need it. Seems like you don't understand class design. Feel free to ignore energy drain and continue to overheal / sit on Aetherflow stacks. You can't keep it off your hotbar. The rest of us will actually play the class properly.
    That analogy only works when healing/dps is a choice. Since there was no dps option for aetherflow it felt good to be able to frequently use something like sacred soil. Keep excog running on tanks. But now you get to use fun abilities like that less often and for what? an instant low dps spell because now its a decent dps loss to use aetherflow on healing. THAT is an insanely poor design decision because healing aetherflow abilities are fun to use and energy drain is not.

    I will say the one interesting part to energy drain is thinking how you can turn dissipation into a dps cooldown. Though I'm not actually sure if using that mechanic incorrectly is actually a good thing or a bad thing.
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    Last edited by Zolvolt; 07-30-2019 at 05:00 PM.

  7. #67
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    msoltyspl's Avatar
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    Amene Zenko
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    Omega
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    Warrior Lv 100
    SCH is still a boring, unimaginative, shallow corpse of a class it was before - in context of enjoyment of the gameplay. The joke potency changes (along with re-adding energy drain) are nowhere need bridging that ridiculous damage gap it's behind WHM.

    At least you got your dump key back.
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    Last edited by msoltyspl; 07-30-2019 at 05:07 PM.

  8. #68
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    Crushnight's Avatar
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    Jets Down
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Um Energy Drain on sch will work like smn's energy drain single target dmg which GIVES aetherflow stacks not use them sch just got more healing with tiny damage increase.

    Ast changes are nice especially Celestial Opposition but Nocturnal is still a stay away from me button, Collective Unconsiousness is still poor man's Sacred soil still being worse in every way, Divination every 2 minutes will not fix ast rdps contribution being vastly lower than whm pDps so nothing changes there, Looks like they just fixed Diurnal woo the more used sect is more potent o/.

    Glad whm was untouched they deserve their power \o/
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  9. #69
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    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    SCH job guide updated to show energy drain with

    "Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 150.
    Additional Effect: Absorbs a portion of damage dealt as HP and restores MP
    Additional Effect: Increases Faerie Gauge by 10
    Aetherflow Gauge Cost: 1"

    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/scholar/

    It isn't giving us aetherflow. It's using an aetherflow.
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  10. #70
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    Jenny Davar
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    Kujata
    Main Class
    Weaver Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    Um Energy Drain on sch will work like smn's energy drain single target dmg which GIVES aetherflow stacks not use them sch just got more healing with tiny damage increase.
    Where did they say this?
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