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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    You sure? Because I don't see any reason to replace my PGL's Silver Tricorne.
    I'm pretty sure he said all other U/Us. Also, Paragon Crown is delicious
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    I'm pretty sure he said all other U/Us. Also, Paragon Crown is delicious
    He said all other W for that slot. Silver Tricorne +20 Int, plus the base +3 Str and +3 Dex, or the Paragon Crown that has a number of stats I don't actually need. . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    He said all other W for that slot. Silver Tricorne +20 Int, plus the base +3 Str and +3 Dex, or the Paragon Crown that has a number of stats I don't actually need. . .
    Regardless, that's a lovely example of a Green gear that is meldable. It's not W I'll give it that, but my position for Green W is and any Green tier gear for that matter is for it to be meldable.

    Now, going on the example of the head slot, how many Blue W gears exist for the head slot that once can compare to? Besides even that, the Paragon Crown for example is in fact the top choice for ARC slot.

    The idea is, and I repeat, that Blue W gear should not be the best in every scenario. They should be the best by circumstance and much better than most other options. Variety. That's the direction I see them heading in with these Blue W gears as of late and I agree with it. They've read the community reaction and how some people wish to be able to meld them, and their response has not been positive in that subject.

    Very doubtful at this point they will suddenly change this plan/design and allow Blue W gears to be melded. Green ones on the other hand there's a lot of inconsistency with, and there's a chance there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    Regardless, that's a lovely example of a Green gear that is meldable.
    It's also a lovely example of a crafted item being better than all other W drops for that slot (for that class), something you said doesn't happen. I'll grant that Paragon is the king of one-size-fits-all, but there are times it loses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    It's also a lovely example of a crafted item being better than all other W drops for that slot (for that class), something you said doesn't happen. I'll grant that Paragon is the king of one-size-fits-all, but there are times it loses.
    I understood it as crafted gear beating all blue gear regardless of slot. I'll admit my misreading. Though I did bring up the valid point that there's more Blue gear for some slots than others. Also that Paragon's is indeed best in slot for some classes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    I understood it as crafted gear beating all blue gear regardless of slot. I'll admit my misreading. Though I did bring up the valid point that there's more Blue gear for some slots than others. Also that Paragon's is indeed best in slot for some classes.
    Here's the thing, though. So far, all the blue gear we have is Ifrit/Mog weapons, the new crowns, and DD gear. No one's going to argue that Ifrit weapons suck (CNJ notwithstanding). The only Moogle weapons I've ever seen put forward as good are the GLD and THM ones. Paragon is the only crown anyone talks about, but on certain classes even it loses to crafted gear. DD gear is so far behind the curve that it wasn't even all that good when it came out, and it's been blown out of the water entirely with the addition of materia.

    So, find me a piece of blue for my PGL that isn't Ifrit's claws and that can't be beaten by a single piece of materia. I would wait with bated breath, but I don't fancy asphyxiating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Here's the thing, though. So far, all the blue gear we have is Ifrit/Mog weapons, the new crowns, and DD gear. No one's going to argue that Ifrit weapons suck (CNJ notwithstanding). The only Moogle weapons I've ever seen put forward as good are the GLD and THM ones. Paragon is the only crown anyone talks about, but on certain classes even it loses to crafted gear. DD gear is so far behind the curve that it wasn't even all that good when it came out, and it's been blown out of the water entirely with the addition of materia.

    So, find me a piece of blue for my PGL that isn't Ifrit's claws and that can't be beaten by a single piece of materia. I would wait with bated breath, but I don't fancy asphyxiating.
    Indeed. As soon as they freaking make content that drops body gear. Probably 1.21s dungeons. Here's hoping for some actually useful Blue armor gear versus the crap that was Darkhold gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    I'm pretty sure he said all other U/Us. Also, Paragon Crown is delicious
    Paragon's Crown is indeed very cool. It should be, as you need all battle classes 50 to obtain it. It is not, however, best in slot for CON,THM,GLA,PUG. This is generally true because of the very fact that you cannot attach materia to it. Don't try to throw away my generalization, that nearly every U/U item in this game is not best in slot as a result of their not being meldable, because a tiny few exceptions to this rule. Your posts are not constructive towards fixing one of the largest flaws of this game at present. For most U/U items currently in this game to be viable, and for much of this game's little content to keep being worth people's time, U/U items should be meldable. Hence, Brannigan is correct.
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