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    Brannigan's suggestion is the most logical, and is what should be done. All gear should be meldable. Crafted gear should be the worst, with green being better, and blue being best. Then logically, BLUE+M > GREEN+M > CRAFTED+M, maintaining the hierarchy. There is no reason why a crafted item with a single piece of materia on it should outclass all other U/U drops for that slot making what little content this game has irrelevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cho View Post
    There is no reason why a crafted item with a single piece of materia on it should outclass all other U/U drops for that slot making what little content this game has irrelevant.
    Good thing it doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    Good thing it doesn't.
    You sure? Because I don't see any reason to replace my PGL's Silver Tricorne.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    You sure? Because I don't see any reason to replace my PGL's Silver Tricorne.
    I'm pretty sure he said all other U/Us. Also, Paragon Crown is delicious
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    I'm pretty sure he said all other U/Us. Also, Paragon Crown is delicious
    He said all other W for that slot. Silver Tricorne +20 Int, plus the base +3 Str and +3 Dex, or the Paragon Crown that has a number of stats I don't actually need. . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    He said all other W for that slot. Silver Tricorne +20 Int, plus the base +3 Str and +3 Dex, or the Paragon Crown that has a number of stats I don't actually need. . .
    Regardless, that's a lovely example of a Green gear that is meldable. It's not W I'll give it that, but my position for Green W is and any Green tier gear for that matter is for it to be meldable.

    Now, going on the example of the head slot, how many Blue W gears exist for the head slot that once can compare to? Besides even that, the Paragon Crown for example is in fact the top choice for ARC slot.

    The idea is, and I repeat, that Blue W gear should not be the best in every scenario. They should be the best by circumstance and much better than most other options. Variety. That's the direction I see them heading in with these Blue W gears as of late and I agree with it. They've read the community reaction and how some people wish to be able to meld them, and their response has not been positive in that subject.

    Very doubtful at this point they will suddenly change this plan/design and allow Blue W gears to be melded. Green ones on the other hand there's a lot of inconsistency with, and there's a chance there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    Regardless, that's a lovely example of a Green gear that is meldable.
    It's also a lovely example of a crafted item being better than all other W drops for that slot (for that class), something you said doesn't happen. I'll grant that Paragon is the king of one-size-fits-all, but there are times it loses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    I'm pretty sure he said all other U/Us. Also, Paragon Crown is delicious
    Paragon's Crown is indeed very cool. It should be, as you need all battle classes 50 to obtain it. It is not, however, best in slot for CON,THM,GLA,PUG. This is generally true because of the very fact that you cannot attach materia to it. Don't try to throw away my generalization, that nearly every U/U item in this game is not best in slot as a result of their not being meldable, because a tiny few exceptions to this rule. Your posts are not constructive towards fixing one of the largest flaws of this game at present. For most U/U items currently in this game to be viable, and for much of this game's little content to keep being worth people's time, U/U items should be meldable. Hence, Brannigan is correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cho View Post
    There is no reason why a crafted item with a single piece of materia on it should outclass all other U/U drops for that slot making what little content this game has irrelevant.
    It's not even entirely about that. If future dropped gear is better than crafted+materia then what is the point of the materia system? Relying on multi-melds to make materia worthwhile is stupid because it's a dumb gambling system with no player input at all. Allowing 1 meld on U/U adds a good reason to go after those perfect tier IV materia. I'm not entirely worried about U/U gear being garbage forever. It sucks that mogblade and some other pieces are useless but oh well. The ifrit lance/bow/axe/fists basically make it so you don't even need to consider weapon materia on those classes, and if future armor is any good then you'll have no reason to worry about materia at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    It's not even entirely about that. If future dropped gear is better than crafted+materia then what is the point of the materia system? Relying on multi-melds to make materia worthwhile is stupid because it's a dumb gambling system with no player input at all. Allowing 1 meld on U/U adds a good reason to go after those perfect tier IV materia. I'm not entirely worried about U/U gear being garbage forever. It sucks that mogblade and some other pieces are useless but oh well. The ifrit lance/bow/axe/fists basically make it so you don't even need to consider weapon materia on those classes, and if future armor is any good then you'll have no reason to worry about materia at all.
    On a related note, I somehow doubt that Job gear is going to be meldable. This should be interesting. . .
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