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    I got a Mogblade tonight and this thing is really bad. The proc heals roughly 1/5 of your autoattack damage when it procs. There is no way this thing would ever, ever be worth equipping over a Winglet with hate materia while in a group.

    On the plus side it does look neat so it's probably best in slot for idling in town while trying to get materia melded onto an actual good sword.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    I got a Mogblade tonight and this thing is really bad. The proc heals roughly 1/5 of your autoattack damage when it procs. There is no way this thing would ever, ever be worth equipping over a Winglet with hate materia while in a group.

    On the plus side it does look neat so it's probably best in slot for idling in town while trying to get materia melded onto an actual good sword.
    If you're having hate problems I feel bad for you, son. I got 99 problems but hate ain't one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    If you're having hate problems I feel bad for you, son. I got 99 problems but hate ain't one.
    If your damage dealers aren't holding themselves back then I feel bad for you since you clearly are working with piss-poor damage dealers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    I got a Mogblade tonight and this thing is really bad. The proc heals roughly 1/5 of your autoattack damage when it procs. There is no way this thing would ever, ever be worth equipping over a Winglet with hate materia while in a group.

    On the plus side it does look neat so it's probably best in slot for idling in town while trying to get materia melded onto an actual good sword.
    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    If you're having hate problems I feel bad for you, son. I got 99 problems but hate ain't one.
    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    If your damage dealers aren't holding themselves back then I feel bad for you since you clearly are working with piss-poor damage dealers.
    Uhm... lol. I'm not the one admitting to hate issues.

    I play with the best damage dealers. I am one of the best damage dealers, though admittedly not the best*. Both of our main tanks use the Mogblade. If the best comeback you can come up with is some wild, baseless assumption then wow lol. Also kind of sad that the reference went over your head. If it didn't, sad that you took it so seriously. Must have hit home. I'll say it again though;

    If you're having hate problems I feel bad for you, son. I got 99 problems but hate ain't one.

    EDIT: *Before you ask, I base this off of parses both on runs with my LS static and groups of other shells.
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    Last edited by NoctisUmbra; 01-08-2012 at 06:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    I got a Mogblade tonight and this thing is really bad. The proc heals roughly 1/5 of your autoattack damage when it procs. There is no way this thing would ever, ever be worth equipping over a Winglet with hate materia while in a group.

    On the plus side it does look neat so it's probably best in slot for idling in town while trying to get materia melded onto an actual good sword.
    Agree with that, Moogle weapons were really poorly itemized, Noctis can ignore it all he wants but these weapons are more like trophies than useful pieces of equipment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Agree with that, Moogle weapons were really poorly itemized, Noctis can ignore it all he wants but these weapons are more like trophies than useful pieces of equipment.
    A lot of them are, I don't deny that. With the way accuracy works right now in a party you barely miss anyway so they're useless for DDs. The blade is viable however, and some GLAs prefer using it. The mogstaff is also viable for THM as they favor m.acc so their spells don't get resisted.

    Furthermore, with the devs having said they're looking into having the additional effects on the weapons proc on attack spells as well, the mage weapons are looking even better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post

    Furthermore, with the devs having said they're looking into having the additional effects on the weapons proc on attack spells as well, the mage weapons are looking even better.
    You mean the THM weapon, CNJ doesn't require MP back on damage they need it on healing.

    My biggest problem with U/U at the moment is the lack of healing stats, I duno who comes up with this kind of itemization, a monkey perhaps ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    You mean the THM weapon, CNJ doesn't require MP back on damage they need it on healing.

    My biggest problem with U/U at the moment is the lack of healing stats, I duno who comes up with this kind of itemization, a monkey perhaps ?
    They're thematic - I'm sure you noticed. They don't get individual stats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    They're thematic - I'm sure you noticed. They don't get individual stats.
    Thats the problem though !!

    Thematic = trophy

    Class specific stats = useful

    It irks me that you are so defensive over this situation, its never going to be addressed when there are 4:1 players like yourself who see no problem with it.
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    Last edited by Jinko; 01-07-2012 at 10:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Thats the problem though !!

    Thematic = trophy

    Class specific stats = useful

    It irks me that you are so defensive over this situation, its never going to be addressed when there are 4:1 players like yourself who see no problem with it.
    Each weapon set giving class specific stats would cause a lack of variety and in turn escalation. Most people don't think that far ahead though. I can understand the frustration of CNjs because the two sets released thus far were both DPS focused. More primals to come however, and since the WHM set, including weapon, will be healing focused and CNJ will become more of a light party and solo choice the DPS weapons may be more appreciated then.

    I've gone over the finer details of gear balance and variety in an earlier post.
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