Healers in the new expansion

[era1Ne]

Not being able to execute fairy actions while casting does remove the class uniqueness. Now we're just whm with ogcds for fairy spells.

I really liked to be able to execute fairy actions while casting, but it was a balancing nightmare imo for the developers and way to strong. This needed to change to provide a better starting point to balance the healers.

[tikiwiki]

I really liked to be able to execute fairy actions while casting, but it was a balancing nightmare imo for the developers and way to strong. This needed to change to provide a better starting point to balance the healers.

and now its horribly clunky and can be delayed by several seconds and things will go off after the aoes you wanted them for, it may have been a "balancing nightmare" but it worked and felt good unlike what it was replaced with

[era1Ne]

@tikiwiki
The fairy doesn't seem more clunky to me.

[tikiwiki]

@tikiwiki
The fairy doesn't seem more clunky to me.

theres bad delay on it now that there wasnt before

[Deceptus]

theres bad delay on it now that there wasnt before

And you constantly get "Can't do that while something else is happening" errors.

It's a result of SE's terrible netcode.

[NobleWinter]

And you constantly get "Can't do that while something else is happening" errors.

It's a result of SE's terrible netcode.

I quickly realized that 2 fairy actions back to back was gonna end up with both going on cool down and only one being used. I shouldn't have to look at my tool kit and constantly ascertain if I'm using a personal skill or a fairy skill to avoid losing my abilities. Seraph can't seem to cast anything in the last 4 seconds she's out either which is frustrating. You only get 20 seconds to begin with and you just lose any ability you press right before she leaves. Scholar takes so much work to me right now. I hate using Ruin 2 to weave. Miasma 2 had a DoT that felt good to apply to weave with. Bio had a shorter duration so natural weave windows were more frequent if you kept it up. 30 secs on the DoT is so long I forget to reapply it cause I zone out hitting Broil 15+ times. I used to love healing as a Scholar but it hurts my soul right now. I hope they make some interesting changes in the next patch for SCH and Astro cause my favorite healers feel terrible to play.

[Mikhaill]

Here's my thoughts on all of this.
Disclaimer: I am a healer main. 73WHM. 75SCH. 76AST. Not my main character so don't bother tryna lodestone me lol.

Very long read ahead!

WHM - Nothing to say, they are the same as always I guess. Your basic healer that got more basic WHM-y stuff and there are in a safe spot.
If I had to complain is about the Lilies, they still don't know how to work these that well? Very minor complaint...Oh and the wings at 80 are ugly lol.

SCH - Might get some heat here. I like the new SCH, I've retired SCH though in HW, where I became AST, then WHM and SCH again from the expansions of 2.0 to 5.0.
For me, I had issues with the macros not popping off and I just got tired of micromanging them. I left it 60 up until now and having a great time with it.
I personally don't care for all the missing DPS Don't kill me!
But, to remove all the DPS with no compensation sucks...bad.
Can we have more Fae related stuff or something? Ya'll killed Eos/Selene...They are legit reskins, I miss Esuna Selene. :/
Also, Fey Union is clunky as all hell. Also, also, I can't see my faerie anymore? I be running without her sometimes...please fix.

AST - Whew lad, this is a biggie, take a seat for this one team....
What have you !@(*#!@()# done to this !@()#()@! job? You guys threw this trash into 3.0 and it was a living nightmare. You take an ENTIRE expansion to fix it and it was fine in 4.0! Then you had to RUIN it here in 5.0. What is this card for all balance nonsense? Not every single one of us AST's were fishing for balance. I don't wanna go into deep details because a lot of people already mentioned how bad the card system is now...but please remove the balance card or rework it into something else.
Balance is the whole damn the problem. Make it like a ATKdown.
Bring back old cards as they are and make Spire (TP one) one of DEFdown.
I dunno, something! IT'S BORING NOW.
And my biggest problem with AST, which made me shelve it until it gets reworked
is how God awful Divination is. What IS this?
The set up for Divination is a complete nightmare, I'm serious.
You have to click 50 million buttons to get one measly 15 second balance buff with a 3 min cooldown.
I am legit, TIRED after trying to get seals, roll cards all day for the same basic ass buff. It's not fun.
You killed AST's identity and it needs to be reverted with minor changes! (Balance reworked. Spire reworked. Divination needs a shorter cooldown and changes badly.)

AST Part 2 - If people still want Balance, we can work it into Divination then.
Keep the amount of seals and then when it's set up it'll give 2/4/6% of damage.
And so that people aren't fishing for seals, make the seals gained random of every card maybe?
You also screwed us in the closest thing to a Time Mage too...Thanks a lot!
I think AST got hit the hardest here. It's not the same and please give us Ewer.
Big brother/sister WHM and SCH got more MP resources than our basic bit ONE! Thanks!

To add about the DPS thing: I also get you want healers to...heal...but you need to
make the game a wee bit harder so we don't have a lot of downtime to keep
spamming the same boring arse skills or more utility. We just want something to do.

So in closing, yeaaaaaaaah, SE really didn't do anything great for healers. It's honestly a slap in the face.
We waited so long for a new heals, just for this atrocious balancing act and this is what we get.
Good job making all the healers quit the game or just not bother anymore. We're already a dime a dozen, why screw us like this?

[KarnSalander]

So in closing, yeaaaaaaaah, SE really didn't do anything great for healers. It's honestly a slap in the face.
We waited so long for a new heals, just for this atrocious balancing act and this is what we get.
Good job making all the healers quit the game or just not bother anymore. We're already a dime a dozen, why screw us like this?

Just before the expansion launched, when the changes were annouced, I was saying to myself "I miss being excited for my job in the upcoming expansion." People responded "Wait until you play it... Stop complaining". But almost one month in since early access, it is exaclty as we thought. It looks to me that the current state of healers is probably the only shade (pun intended) in Shadowbringers. I cross my fingers for 5.05 fixes.

[tikiwiki]

Just before the expansion launched, when the changes were annouced, I was saying to myself "I miss being excited for my job in the upcoming expansion." People responded "Wait until you play it... Stop complaining". But almost one month in since early access, it is exaclty as we thought. It looks to me that the current state of healers is probably the only shade (pun intended) in Shadowbringers. I cross my fingers for 5.05 fixes.

"just wait for the exs"
"just wait for savage"

[Billythepancake]

"just wait for the exs"
"just wait for savage"

"Just wait for 5.1"
"Just wait for 5.2"
Eventually it just turns into "wait until the next expansion"