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    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    On the contrary, it can, and does, help. It helped me several years ago, I've seen it help friends and guildmates, too. Sometimes people don't realize their approach or perspective on a matter is the wrong one until it's pointed out to them. This is not a "works every time" thing, though. But to say it doesn't help is also not true.
    Okay that’s good I’m glad that helped you, can you see where I’m coming from though where it might not be helpful incases if actually mental illness?

    Full disclosure I actually have all of those things I listed earlier I see a therapist and I’m on an anti depressant, while my blacklist isn’t 100% full it is getting there, I’ve gotten depression episodes of depression over rude/unkind/harsh things said to me in the game and my therapist told me that my best solution is to blacklist the person and move on and not deal with them anymore.

    For me someone simply telling me that I have a problem or that I’m over sensitive doesn’t actually help me, I’m aware I have a problem, I’m aware I’m over sensitive, I’m aware I have trouble relating to people a lot of times, simply reminding me of those things just makes me feel bad and powerless it doesn’t help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SerLuke View Post
    Okay that’s good I’m glad that helped you, can you see where I’m coming from though where it might not be helpful incases if actually mental illness?

    Full disclosure I actually have all of those things I listed earlier I see a therapist and I’m on an anti depressant, while my blacklist isn’t 100% full it is getting there, I’ve gotten depression episodes of depression over rude/unkind/harsh things said to me in the game and my therapist told me that my best solution is to blacklist the person and move on and not deal with them anymore.

    For me someone simply telling me that I have a problem or that I’m over sensitive doesn’t actually help me, I’m aware I have a problem, I’m aware I’m over sensitive, I’m aware I have trouble relating to people a lot of times, simply reminding me of those things just makes me feel bad and powerless it doesn’t help.
    We're not therapists. If someone knows they need one, I encourage them to seek one out. But online, you're going to be treated equally, as everyone should be. Which means you're going to be held to the same standard as everyone else. That standard is generally "if everyone around you is the problem, the problem is most likely not everyone around you".

    Your own situation is actually a great example of this. Difference is, you know the problem lies with you. And that is not said in a negative way. Knowing ones own flaws is the best way to deal with them. We all have flaws, but when we use those as an excuse, especially then, it doesn't help the person. I'm not discouraging anyone to not use blacklist, I'm suggesting a better approach is, instead of using that, just move past the comments. They're a momentary thing anyway. If they're directed specifically at you, that's another matter. But just general conversation in public chat, blacklist is A solution, but I believe it's not the best one. This thread being a perfect example of why it's not the best, because it's limited. ( i feel like i started rambling, but i hope i made sense anyway )
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    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    We're not therapists. If someone knows they need one, I encourage them to seek one out. But online, you're going to be treated equally, as everyone should be. Which means you're going to be held to the same standard as everyone else. That standard is generally "if everyone around you is the problem, the problem is most likely not everyone around you".

    Your own situation is actually a great example of this. Difference is, you know the problem lies with you. And that is not said in a negative way. Knowing ones own flaws is the best way to deal with them. We all have flaws, but when we use those as an excuse, especially then, it doesn't help the person. I'm not discouraging anyone to not use blacklist, I'm suggesting a better approach is, instead of using that, just move past the comments. They're a momentary thing anyway. If they're directed specifically at you, that's another matter. But just general conversation in public chat, blacklist is A solution, but I believe it's not the best one. This thread being a perfect example of why it's not the best, because it's limited. ( i feel like i started rambling, but i hope i made sense anyway )
    It's kinda like getting a restraining order against everyone who ever went the smallest bit out of line around you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SerLuke View Post
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    Over-sensitive and Hyper-sensitive is not exactly the same.

    The first is more often someone like a SJWs who want to rebuild the world without even realizing he's caricaturing the reality (the ones who change the world are the ones who provide balance, not the ones who want to force-change or destroy. SJWs always forget that).

    Hyper-sensitive is kinda different. Most of time hyper-sensitive people facing something they feel as offensive (even what is just a bad/stupid joke to take as a second degree) will rather close themselves back in their bubble rather than arguing and "fighting back".

    The first wants to be the right, the bright side, whatever they are wrong or not, what they call, they believe to be justice will be everything for them.

    The second, it can be solved explaining when there is a missunderstanding. The sad part is closed in their bubble, hyper-sensitive people hardly talk except if someone they really trust succeed to break the bubble a gentle way.

    Of course there are, unfortunatly, really toxic people, but even hyper-sensitive people will hardly reach 200 people in the blacklist. They will close up in their bubble or give up the game before that.

    SJWs can be kinda different... they have a ideal to fight for.
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