What do you do with a Blacklist full?

[SerLuke]

People different thresholds for dealing with rude people and stress and anxiety, quit shaming people by going “you’re the one with the problem!” It’s not helpful or productive, the OP wasn’t posting on here to shame anyone or to make anyone look badZ

[Nedkel]

I kinda doubt NA people are that worst than UE people and wonder if you're not kinda over-reacting... I've heard about polemics that sound like trying to hit a bug with a hammer if not a tank. Give yourself a break and relativise.

I have to visit US servers, because this sounds like a completely different world.
Seriously i am happy if people write anything on my EU server, the only conversation that is going around is in FC and novice linshell, no one uses shout or yell for gags and laugh. Never seen anyone using "N" word.
Maybe OP should play on EU data center, because i believe it is what she/he is looking for.
Playing without FC feels like a living on a postapocaliptic wasteland.

[Eldevern]

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Unfortunatly.

Eureka is the last place I've seen people talking in chat for ages. New maps are currently a bit more lively but never for long. Shouts for fates or hunt and that's almost all XD

Sometimes, in shout, there are some kinds of trolls against some kinds of SJW's but it remains rare (hopefully).

Most people (no) sound (at all) like playing in their bubble (chit-chat in their FC discord I guess)

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It is not to blame the OP... Only, if we never blacklist anyone or almost, there are three possibilities :
1. We are totally indifferents and cruels
2. Nothing happens
3. OP is over-reacting

[Niwashi]

You should be able to safely delete the oldest names listed. If they were RMT, then they're definitely long gone. Those only stick around for a few hours to a day at most. And if they were actual players who annoyed you, it was long enough ago that your chances are pretty slim that you'd hit a combination of:
1) They're still playing.
2) You encounter them again.
3) Next time you encounter them, they're being obnoxious again.
And if all that happens, you just blacklist them again (and report if appropriate).

I'd recommend deleting the top hundred names and leaving the bottom (i.e. most recent) hundred. That should give you enough room to last a while.

[Niwashi]

I’ve played MMOs long enough to say with 100% confidence that if your blacklist is full, the problem is probably you.

Not if 95% of it is gil spammers, but you don't want to delete the other 5% that represent actual obnoxious players. Unfortunately, this game doesn't give us a good way to distinguish the reason someone was blacklisted.

No point in listing gil spammers since they change names every few minutes. (Reporting them SHOULD block them for the remainder of your login, like it does in WoW.)

It's not every few minutes (though they may alternate if multiple spam bots are active at once). They'll last a few hours, long enough for blacklisting to be at least temporarily useful. While I agree that a separate temporary block would be preferable, since we don't currently have that our best option is to blacklist them (as well as reporting them).

[CazzT]

Here's what people are missing. It's not about fighting, it's not about being annoyed. It is about people breaking the ToS. There was once a forum user now banned who made blatant transphobic posts and insulted another user repeatedly.

If they are breaking TOS, then report them. Let SE sort it out.
As for "blatant transphobic posts", I can't take accusations like this seriously considering that anyone that doesn't automatically agree with someone saying they are trans is labeled as transphobic. It's been tossed around to the point it has no meaning.

As for "offensive behavior", there are people who take offense to the slightest thing. Is the entire playbase to be subject to these few individuals' fragility? Or would not the better approach be to encourage and help these individuals realize that they are strong enough to let it go? And before someone brings up extreme cases or fringe cases, I'm not saying let actual offensive behavior go (because I know someone would bring this up, and I'm sure someone still will even though I've made this comment)

People different thresholds for dealing with rude people and stress and anxiety, quit shaming people by going “you’re the one with the problem!” It’s not helpful or productive, the OP wasn’t posting on here to shame anyone or to make anyone look badZ

So now it's shaming someone when the community is trying to help them by pointing out that they are the root of their own problem?

If everyone around you is mean, what are the chances that it's everyone around you who is the problem? Is it not more likely that the problem is you when you think everyone else is the problem? (you being used in the generic way, lest someone think I'm attacking SerLuke)

[Mistyregions]

I personally dont know you, but this question leads me to believe you are overly sensitive or insufferable to have that many people on your black list? I have exactly zero people on my black list because idgaf

[SerLuke]

If they are breaking TOS, then report them. Let SE sort it out.
As for "blatant transphobic posts", I can't take accusations like this seriously considering that anyone that doesn't automatically agree with someone saying they are trans is labeled as transphobic. It's been tossed around to the point it has no meaning.

As for "offensive behavior", there are people who take offense to the slightest thing. Is the entire playbase to be subject to these few individuals' fragility? Or would not the better approach be to encourage and help these individuals realize that they are strong enough to let it go? And before someone brings up extreme cases or fringe cases, I'm not saying let actual offensive behavior go (because I know someone would bring this up, and I'm sure someone still will even though I've made this comment)


So now it's shaming someone when the community is trying to help them by pointing out that they are the root of their own problem?

If everyone around you is mean, what are the chances that it's everyone around you who is the problem? Is it not more likely that the problem is you when you think everyone else is the problem? (you being used in the generic way, lest someone think I'm attacking SerLuke)

Okay say hypothetically they actually do have a problem, maybe major depression, or social anxiety, or Aspergers, etc, how is telling them they are the problem going to actually help anything except for making them feel bad? A therapist might help them sure, but a random stranger over the Internet telling you that “you are the problem” or “you are being over sensitive” isn’t going to help them.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Not if 95% of it is gil spammers, but you don't want to delete the other 5% that represent actual obnoxious players. Unfortunately, this game doesn't give us a good way to distinguish the reason someone was blacklisted.



It's not every few minutes (though they may alternate if multiple spam bots are active at once). They'll last a few hours, long enough for blacklisting to be at least temporarily useful. While I agree that a separate temporary block would be preferable, since we don't currently have that our best option is to blacklist them (as well as reporting them).

Blacklisting rmt is pointless. The account usually logs off in a few minutes and creates a new char, or it gets banned. They don't delete characters when they ban, so your blacklist is full of banned rmt bots lol.

[CazzT]

Okay say hypothetically they actually do have a problem, maybe major depression, or social anxiety, or Aspergers, etc, how is telling them they are the problem going to actually help anything except for making them feel bad? A therapist might help them sure, but a random stranger over the Internet telling you that “you are the problem” or “you are being over sensitive” isn’t going to help them.

On the contrary, it can, and does, help. It helped me several years ago, I've seen it help friends and guildmates, too. Sometimes people don't realize their approach or perspective on a matter is the wrong one until it's pointed out to them. This is not a "works every time" thing, though. But to say it doesn't help is also not true.