What do you do with a Blacklist full?

[SerLuke]

On the contrary, it can, and does, help. It helped me several years ago, I've seen it help friends and guildmates, too. Sometimes people don't realize their approach or perspective on a matter is the wrong one until it's pointed out to them. This is not a "works every time" thing, though. But to say it doesn't help is also not true.

Okay that’s good I’m glad that helped you, can you see where I’m coming from though where it might not be helpful incases if actually mental illness?

Full disclosure I actually have all of those things I listed earlier I see a therapist and I’m on an anti depressant, while my blacklist isn’t 100% full it is getting there, I’ve gotten depression episodes of depression over rude/unkind/harsh things said to me in the game and my therapist told me that my best solution is to blacklist the person and move on and not deal with them anymore.

For me someone simply telling me that I have a problem or that I’m over sensitive doesn’t actually help me, I’m aware I have a problem, I’m aware I’m over sensitive, I’m aware I have trouble relating to people a lot of times, simply reminding me of those things just makes me feel bad and powerless it doesn’t help.

[Lunavi]

Not if 95% of it is gil spammers, but you don't want to delete the other 5% that represent actual obnoxious players. Unfortunately, this game doesn't give us a good way to distinguish the reason someone was blacklisted.

There is actually a way to tell, if their user name looks like them smashed their head on the keyboard they are Gil spammers.

[CazzT]

Okay that’s good I’m glad that helped you, can you see where I’m coming from though where it might not be helpful incases if actually mental illness?

Full disclosure I actually have all of those things I listed earlier I see a therapist and I’m on an anti depressant, while my blacklist isn’t 100% full it is getting there, I’ve gotten depression episodes of depression over rude/unkind/harsh things said to me in the game and my therapist told me that my best solution is to blacklist the person and move on and not deal with them anymore.

For me someone simply telling me that I have a problem or that I’m over sensitive doesn’t actually help me, I’m aware I have a problem, I’m aware I’m over sensitive, I’m aware I have trouble relating to people a lot of times, simply reminding me of those things just makes me feel bad and powerless it doesn’t help.

We're not therapists. If someone knows they need one, I encourage them to seek one out. But online, you're going to be treated equally, as everyone should be. Which means you're going to be held to the same standard as everyone else. That standard is generally "if everyone around you is the problem, the problem is most likely not everyone around you".

Your own situation is actually a great example of this. Difference is, you know the problem lies with you. And that is not said in a negative way. Knowing ones own flaws is the best way to deal with them. We all have flaws, but when we use those as an excuse, especially then, it doesn't help the person. I'm not discouraging anyone to not use blacklist, I'm suggesting a better approach is, instead of using that, just move past the comments. They're a momentary thing anyway. If they're directed specifically at you, that's another matter. But just general conversation in public chat, blacklist is A solution, but I believe it's not the best one. This thread being a perfect example of why it's not the best, because it's limited. ( i feel like i started rambling, but i hope i made sense anyway )

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

We're not therapists. If someone knows they need one, I encourage them to seek one out. But online, you're going to be treated equally, as everyone should be. Which means you're going to be held to the same standard as everyone else. That standard is generally "if everyone around you is the problem, the problem is most likely not everyone around you".

Your own situation is actually a great example of this. Difference is, you know the problem lies with you. And that is not said in a negative way. Knowing ones own flaws is the best way to deal with them. We all have flaws, but when we use those as an excuse, especially then, it doesn't help the person. I'm not discouraging anyone to not use blacklist, I'm suggesting a better approach is, instead of using that, just move past the comments. They're a momentary thing anyway. If they're directed specifically at you, that's another matter. But just general conversation in public chat, blacklist is A solution, but I believe it's not the best one. This thread being a perfect example of why it's not the best, because it's limited. ( i feel like i started rambling, but i hope i made sense anyway )

It's kinda like getting a restraining order against everyone who ever went the smallest bit out of line around you.

[Awha]

Okay say hypothetically they actually do have a problem, maybe major depression, or social anxiety, or Aspergers, etc, how is telling them they are the problem going to actually help anything except for making them feel bad? A therapist might help them sure, but a random stranger over the Internet telling you that “you are the problem” or “you are being over sensitive” isn’t going to help them.

As someone with many issues, it is not the responsibility of strangers to assume such things and plan their responses accordingly.

[Eldevern]

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Over-sensitive and Hyper-sensitive is not exactly the same.

The first is more often someone like a SJWs who want to rebuild the world without even realizing he's caricaturing the reality (the ones who change the world are the ones who provide balance, not the ones who want to force-change or destroy. SJWs always forget that).

Hyper-sensitive is kinda different. Most of time hyper-sensitive people facing something they feel as offensive (even what is just a bad/stupid joke to take as a second degree) will rather close themselves back in their bubble rather than arguing and "fighting back".

The first wants to be the right, the bright side, whatever they are wrong or not, what they call, they believe to be justice will be everything for them.

The second, it can be solved explaining when there is a missunderstanding. The sad part is closed in their bubble, hyper-sensitive people hardly talk except if someone they really trust succeed to break the bubble a gentle way.

Of course there are, unfortunatly, really toxic people, but even hyper-sensitive people will hardly reach 200 people in the blacklist. They will close up in their bubble or give up the game before that.

SJWs can be kinda different... they have a ideal to fight for.

[Zarabeth]

I get annoyed with shouts in town so I just put them in a separate box in chat. Then, if I wish to check for something useful I can check that tab. Otherwise, I can just ignore it. I have to keep in mind that just because people chatting in shouts bugs me, it does not bug everyone. It's my problem so I have a workaround. My problem, my responsibility.

OP I'm not sure what it is that is bothering you but perhaps a server change is in order? Now we can visit other servers on our data centers why not go check out some other worlds? Maybe you can find one with people who fit with your idea of what you want to be around. Worth a shot, right? Alternatively, ask around. Find out what type of community each server has and if you'd like to join them.

As to the full blackllist just take the RMT off. They change names constantly anyway so ti's rather pointless to blacklist them.

[WaterShield]

That’s frankly none of your business, they can blacklist whoever they want for whatever reason.

If it's no ones business, why are they posting about it in a public forum?

[WaterShield]

I tried to get a GM response, but was given the generic beep boop reply of "just add the player to your blacklist" and when I didn't close the issue, I got another full of nonsense that had nothing to do with my submitted question on what to do when it's full.

There are many a children in /shout and for hunts/fate spawn call outs, I shouldn't have to keep a whole form of player communication off because some kids are being dumb. There is also NN (to which I also have a thread on but but it is kill) that's so low quality that it's worse than shout. If I were to report them all for racist posting, overly sexual "cute and funny" posting of underage characters, ect- I know for a fact I'd just get the above robotic response.

So, please- what is the solution to people being obnoxious, but you're limited to 200? There is also the case of endless bots spamming the chat, and I blacklist them to not see spam when in an ARR city state. Reporting the hoards of people would be a job that even an accountant would shirk. And when I do report, I doubt any action is honestly taken. Maybe a side note but a GM just shrugs and let's them keep at it.

Remove old entries in the blacklist and enter the new people who are more offensive to you. If you reach a point at which you cannot enjoy the server you are on at all... transfer?

[Violet_Galaxy]

I just checked my blacklist and I have exactly 0. Sure, I've met my fair share of jerks in-game but I generally will probably forget about them 5 minutes later lol. I don't mean this in a mean way, but out of those 200 instances where you had to blacklist somebody, you were the common denominator. PLEASE don't take offense to that, I'm just stating a fact and something to think about.