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    I’ve played MMOs long enough to say with 100% confidence that if your blacklist is full, the problem is probably you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggles View Post
    I’ve played MMOs long enough to say with 100% confidence that if your blacklist is full, the problem is probably you.
    I dont have anyone on the blacklist, i have no idea where the "childish behaviour" comes from or even worse "racist" never seen it in the shout chat at all. o_O
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggles View Post
    I’ve played MMOs long enough to say with 100% confidence that if your blacklist is full, the problem is probably you.
    Here's what people are missing. It's not about fighting, it's not about being annoyed. It is about people breaking the ToS. There was once a forum user now banned who made blatant transphobic posts and insulted another user repeatedly. Now imagine that but an entire chat log between 5 people. I am not talking passive aggressiveness which YMMV or the fishing for upvotes, put me in the screenshot like behavior. I am speaking of users who will will go on tirades dropping the N bomb and so much more.

    Now, there has been many a feedback of, "If you say anything you get banned." That is not what I'm getting at. I have also been faced with the argument of, "It's normal for this chat XD" And just because it's normal, doesn't mean it's ok.

    Here, for you,

    ■Nuisance behaviour
    "Nuisance behaviour" means speech or behaviour that hurts others or obstructs game play, but which is not classified as harassment. Even if it was not the intention, a penalty may be imposed if the end result was that another person was hurt or obstructed.

    Below is a non-exhaustive list of examples of nuisance behaviour:

    ◆Offensive expression
    "Offensive expression" means an expression in general that inflicts emotional distress by being offensive to another person. Offensive expression may include:

    ・Aggressive expressions such as violent language/slander/insult/threat.
    ・Expressions that provoke or belittle another person, such as excessive criticism, negation/ridicule
    ・Expressions that significantly lack consideration for another person
    ・Expressions that unilaterally reject another person's opinion
    ・Expressions that any reasonable person would find offensive
    ・Expressions that compel a playing style
    ・Expressions that attempt to unilaterally exclude someone from the game or content/community, etc.
    (Except when in accordance with rules set by an administrator such as a Free Company Master)
    ・Expressions that contravene public order and morals
    ・Other expressions that are offensive to another person

    Offensive expressions are prohibited in all places where expressions can be made in Final Fantasy XIV, including chat (including Quick Chat and Emote), markers, comments and names. Use of an offensive expression in the form of a character name is also regarded as nuisance behaviour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    If you truly do have a full blacklist of people who were legitimately being offensive, then the best advice I can give you is to clear it and start over. Unless you blocked 200 people in a week, there's a really good chance you'll never hear from a good number of them again. People running around dropping the N bomb probably have been forcibly removed from the game by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    Here's what people are missing. It's not about fighting, it's not about being annoyed. It is about people breaking the ToS. There was once a forum user now banned who made blatant transphobic posts and insulted another user repeatedly.
    If they are breaking TOS, then report them. Let SE sort it out.
    As for "blatant transphobic posts", I can't take accusations like this seriously considering that anyone that doesn't automatically agree with someone saying they are trans is labeled as transphobic. It's been tossed around to the point it has no meaning.

    As for "offensive behavior", there are people who take offense to the slightest thing. Is the entire playbase to be subject to these few individuals' fragility? Or would not the better approach be to encourage and help these individuals realize that they are strong enough to let it go? And before someone brings up extreme cases or fringe cases, I'm not saying let actual offensive behavior go (because I know someone would bring this up, and I'm sure someone still will even though I've made this comment)

    Quote Originally Posted by SerLuke View Post
    People different thresholds for dealing with rude people and stress and anxiety, quit shaming people by going “you’re the one with the problem!” It’s not helpful or productive, the OP wasn’t posting on here to shame anyone or to make anyone look badZ
    So now it's shaming someone when the community is trying to help them by pointing out that they are the root of their own problem?

    If everyone around you is mean, what are the chances that it's everyone around you who is the problem? Is it not more likely that the problem is you when you think everyone else is the problem? (you being used in the generic way, lest someone think I'm attacking SerLuke)
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    Last edited by CazzT; 07-14-2019 at 11:55 PM.