If you thought the healer DPS debate would change with the change...

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Oh really?
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._that_healers/
That was from a simple google of "ffxiv yoshi p healer dps"

There's a VERY big difference between:

So Yoshi P is not more important? Because his stance is that healers should not be DPSing at all.

And

We do not expect healers to contribute DPS

He isn't telling or advising healers not to DPS. Rather, he feels that it isn't expected. Maybe there's a language barrier thing here but that's quite a significant difference in my eyes.

It's funny how no other MMO community demands the Healer DPS.

My WoW Resto shaman was fully demanded to DPS in PvP. Not just required or expected, but outright demanded. It was literally expected of me in all forms of PvP from gank groups in the open world through to Arena even though I was a pure healer build once the

Everquest also had expectations. Got an army of Druids standing around not using their nigh unresistable swarm line of dots? That's a pretty significant waste of damage right there. You'd get told to use them very quickly. Again, I'll restate that my Shaman was fully expected to DPS where possible, particularly in merits or raid trash.

Not going to argue the WoW/Blade/Warhammer points since DPS is more centric to those roles than we see in FFXIV. I could probably add FFXI's SCH to the fringe case list as well.

One thing I should make very clear though, in FFXIV I actually don't demand that healers DPS above all else. That's just as idiotic as suggesting that they shouldn't DPS at all. All I ask is that they strive to improve and contribute to the group's overall performance to the best of their ability. The issue right now is that once you've hit the baseline healing requirements, there's very little to contribute outside of DPS.