If you thought the healer DPS debate would change with the change...

[Hyperia]

I just tried healing again after taking a 2 year break, switched to tank, and was enjoying it but once I got to the end game, its back to usual. Even with the removal of a large chunk of the healer DPS spells and abilities, the player community is still demanding, not asking, demanding that healers still DPS.

Not a welcome experience for me one bit. I don't mind contributing when I can but being outright told that I am causing trouble if I am focusing on healing because... well...they need to be healed (people standing in the fire), it really gets to me. I cant DPS if I am spending my mana on rezzes or heals or needing to save mana for a mechanic, etc. I know the devs are trying to reduce the need for healer DPS but it isn't working.

TLDR: Healer DPS is more important than anything else, if you don't, your dead weight, get lost.

[Shurrikhan]

TLDR: Shockingly, we still expect players not to idle in combat.

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

Please maintain the mentality of healing first dps second. As a tank main, I've died far too many times to healers tunnel visioning their dps.

[seida]

I mean, that logic won't change and never will change: ABC. If you don't need to cast a heal, you should be casting a DPS spell, otherwise it's a waste. I say this as a healer.

Obviously, you prioritise healing. If the other party members are messing up so badly you don't have time to DPS, that's on them and you do what you have to do. But the logic itself remains the same.

[HyoMinPark]

When you have WHMs capable of pushing out as much damage as the tanks (and even out-damaging them at some percentiles), of course people are going to expect their healers to utilize their DPS kits. WHMs have broken 7,000 DPS.

All other roles are expected to press all of their buttons. It's only fair that healers get the same treatment. Keep your party alive, DPS when you don't need to heal.

As most don't know, DPS is expensive mana wise now and rezzes are 25% of your entire mana supply. There are times when all I can do is heal and then idle to recharge mana. I don't mind tossing out a few DPS spells or a dot but with the current healer setup, its near impossible to ABC. Healers don't have the bottomless well of mana they used to have.

I struggled with MP on AST (nothing new here, really; our MP economy was bad last expac too) - but I also struggled just to heal. Leveling WHM right now and I'm having no issues doing both healing and DPSing. And my MP management is fine. Between proper Lucid usage, Assize, and Thin Air, I don't run dry except in content where I don't have Assize or Thin Air (and even then I manage).

[Hyperia]

As most don't know, DPS is expensive mana wise now and rezzes are 25% of your entire mana supply. There are times when all I can do is heal and then idle to recharge mana. I don't mind tossing out a few DPS spells or a dot but with the current healer setup, its near impossible to ABC. Healers don't have the bottomless well of mana they used to have.

As to the WHM DPS potency, yea they need a nerf, a big one too.

[Avidria]

Big part of why I don't heal in this game. I hate that DPSing is essentially a requirement. I mean, I'll throw out dps when I can, when I'm not doing anything else and have the mana for it. But no, I am not going to work on optimizing and maximizing my damage output when I'm playing a freaking healer. No thanks. Not interested.

I'll stick to actually playing a DPS.

TLDR: Shockingly, we still expect players not to idle in combat.

I'm curious what part of OP's post made you think they were idling in combat.

[Selova]

As to the WHM DPS potency, yea they need a nerf, a big one too.

They dont actually. SCH and AST just need to be brought up to their level

[Ilenya]

They dont actually. SCH and AST just need to be brought up to their level

I've not looked at numbers, but is buffing SCH damage really a good idea? I feel like SCH having lower damage makes sense with the sheer number of oGCD skills we have to heal. Does WHM get that much more to make it work better? (I may not even level WHM this time around. I dunno if it's how used to SCH I am, but WHM just feels so wrong to me.)

[Demetri_Delethorn]

If someone tells me to DPS, or is snippy about me not DPSing, while I'm running as Healer, I just don't acknowledge them. If you can't be civil about it, why should I bother to reply?

I will generally throw out some attacks if I can, but I tend to focus on keeping people alive. I've caused wipes in DF because I was trying to DPS as a Healer. I would rather get kicked from the group than risk a wipe.

I love how that's the most power they have. Imagine getting so offended over your healer healing that you abuse the votekick feature. Where oh where will I find another group of people