If you thought the healer DPS debate would change with the change...

[Melorie]

sigh

Keep throwing the word toxic for anyone that states something you don't agree with, it still won't make me a toxic player - I don't even suggest lazy healers that only spam Medica I on DF to do DPS, even though I think that they're a burden to the party, I don't kick people, I talk about healer DPS with people that are interested to hear about it. If anything, I'm less toxic than dramatic people that act like healers are suffering some sort of abuse just because someone is stating that that healers should and are required to DPS in order to bring the best of their job to the table. Because this statement is not a lie.

This mentality is hardly toxic - expect that people play their best has nothing to do with being toxic. You can express this idea in a very toxic and rude way, of course, and you shouldn't do that, but that's something else. And if this, in a game, is such a toxic thing for you... Well. My condolences, really.

[Nedkel]

Keep throwing the word toxic for anyone that states something you don't agree with, it still won't make me a toxic player - I don't even suggest lazy healers that only spam Medica I on DF to do DPS, even though I think that they're a burden to the party, I don't kick people, I talk about healer DPS with people that are interested to hear about it. If anything, I'm less toxic than dramatic people that act like healers are suffering some sort of abuse just because someone is stating that that healers should and are required to DPS in order to bring the best of their job to the table. Because this statement is not a lie.

This mentality is hardly toxic - expect that people play their best has nothing to do with being toxic. You can express this idea in a very toxic and rude way, of course, and you shouldn't do that, but that's something else. And if this, in a game, is such a toxic thing for you... Well. My condolences, really.

They are not required to dps.
Give it just 1 second to listen to this guy (interviewer).

https://youtu.be/5la_nyC5BO0?t=281

Yoshi P is our boss of the bosses, what do you need more than his words itself?
Its just that and only that, just because NPC deal damage from time to time does not mean the whole game balance is based on it.
Heck our game got even a rebalance patch where healers lost one of their DPS skill, and tanks got squisher to enforce healers to heal more, it clearly moved towards healers to heal more, you could see it clearly in fflogs where SCH and AST are dealing relatively a lot less dps than they used to.

Healers are not required to dps, fin, fim, finito, ende, koniec.

[IttyBitty]

They are not required to dps.
Give it just 1 second to listen to this guy (interviewer).

https://youtu.be/5la_nyC5BO0?t=281

Yoshi P is our boss of the bosses, what do you need more than his words itself?
Its just that and only that, just because NPC deal damage from time to time does not mean the whole game balance is based on it.
Heck our game got even a rebalance patch where healers lost one of their DPS skill, and tanks got squisher to enforce healers to heal more, it clearly moved towards healers to heal more, you could see it clearly in fflogs where SCH and AST are dealing relatively a lot less dps than they used to.

Healers are not required to dps, fin, fim, finito, ende, koniec.

ONCE AGAIN, the content that is placed in front of us determines what is or isn't true in the scope of the game's design. It doesn't matter one iota what Yoshi himself says or believes. Either his team designs content in such a way that healers cannot DPS, or they will have to deal with the fact that the player base will demand that healers DPS as a component of basic class competence (ie ABCs)

Healing requirements REALLY have not changed to any appreciable degree. It is pretty consistent with early HW. It is pretty consistent with early SB. You and yours are just used to overgearing everything.

[Shurrikhan]

They are not required to dps.
Give it just 1 second to listen to this guy (interviewer).

https://youtu.be/5la_nyC5BO0?t=281

Yoshi P is our boss of the bosses, what do you need more than his words itself?

A game that gives us something else to do with our (massive amounts of) downtime than just dpsing?

That the director says "I'd rather not have healers be obliged to dps" means no more than a principal saying "I'd rather none of my students fall behind." It's a nice enough intention, but meaningless until that leader and their staff make it so.

[Alphras]

First of if your group expects you to dps, you are expected to dps. That's it. Discussions on the healer forums don't help to change this expectation.

In this game you have alot of downtime as healer a in regards to your global cooldowns (I would say up to 80% in the current extreme trials, or up to 100% with a static). You have two options to fill this downtime.
1. Do damage
2. Do nothing

At the end of the day, dps (combined healer dps mind you) is a measurement of how well you are healing.

They are not required to dps.
Give it just 1 second to listen to this guy (interviewer).

https://youtu.be/5la_nyC5BO0?t=281

Yoshi P is our boss of the bosses, what do you need more than his words itself?
Its just that and only that, just because NPC deal damage from time to time does not mean the whole game balance is based on it.
Heck our game got even a rebalance patch where healers lost one of their DPS skill, and tanks got squisher to enforce healers to heal more, it clearly moved towards healers to heal more, you could see it clearly in fflogs where SCH and AST are dealing relatively a lot less dps than they used to.

Healers are not required to dps, fin, fim, finito, ende, koniec.

His opinion doesn't really matter in this discussion at all if the game isn't designed to reflect it.