Scholar 5.0 Discussion

[LariaKirin]

First, a must have setting. This will let you see the fairy name so you can see where you placed her. You will not be able to cast anything on the fairy:

Settings -> Character -> Control -> Target -> Untick "Disable targetting of pets and minions when in battle".


Feedback after a few days of 80. No Extremes yet, waiting for people to max level.

I'm happy with the Embrace nerf. There's also been an overall healing nerf due to HP scaling. I'm also happy with heals being weaker relative to the total HP of your party members. There seems to be more damage going around, but this may just be due to lack of gear. I've not seen a wall-to-wall pull on a fully geared lvl 80 tank. I have no memory of Stormblood raid wide damage to compare, so all I can say is - could use a bump in frequency to make the relatively weaker heals necessary.

I'd like Energy Drain back or an Aetherflow dump in some form. Sometimes I need all of it, but this is generally due to people getting hit left and right by mechanics in encounters they've never seen before. I expect excess Aetherflow to become more and more common over time. The lack of Energy Drain makes things a bit awkward.

And finally, I like the MP management changes. If you're consistently forgetting about Lucid, you will have problems.

Piety scaling is linear and around 22 piety for each 1 MP per tick. If you scale this to a minute, your extra piety is approximately your extra MP per minute. E.g. 440 Piety ~= 400 MP per minute. I don't expect it to be necessary in Extreme, but possibly in Savage? Who knows.

[Foxkid]

It still feels very awkward not having an offensive option to dump aether when everyone is at full health. I don't think I've ever felt I had to overheal so much just to get the most out of a end of combat stack reset whether from dissipation or AF.

Outside of that, the healing is fine, but dear god trying to use art AT ALL is just not worth the cost or effort for the damage output given with no other benefits to it.

I still have a fair bit of uptime once I learn the mechanics of a fight so what am I supposed to do now? Chain > Bio > broil + ruin II 80x as my mp allows > lucid when at 3-5k mp or stand around and just watch and dodge until I have an actual need to heal anyone at all.

Going into the dungeons first time when nothing is known is the only "challenge" available so far because it becomes a standard affair 2nd time on if you catch on fast. But after that, especially with the additional shielding available from Seraph, I'm expecting even more downtime, even in later extremes and savages unless the bosses become "use 2-7 raid damage" and "9-26 tank busters" per minute.

Piety feels really useless to me within a fight and despite doing "20-24k" on double casting broil and ruin, I don't feel like I'm contributing a whole lot to a fight offense wise.

Maybe if that seemingly cutscene only wait pose is accessible it'd showcase explicitly how I feel in a fight once its down pat, especially if the tank at least knows how to minimize their damage taken even in a bigger pull.

[Yomiko_Nonaka]

Ok, so noticed something wrong.

I just did my roulette and ended up in a 70 trial. my addlo seemed the same as when i was lvl 80 so i tested, just to compare the number.

As a lvl 70, level sync so no materia, my addlo were basically 9200-9400.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/xew5ju.png

As a lvl 80, ilvl 341 full melded.... i basically do the same !

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/a/im...053/evBw6g.png

I have 10 more level and 31 more Ilvl. My weapon have +7 magic damage. Why the hell is my addlo doing exactly the same as when i'm lvl 70 ?

[EaMett]

Settings -> Character -> Control -> Target -> Untick "Disable targetting of pets and minions when in battle".

My hero!! How did I miss this T_T

[Sebazy]

I have 10 more level and 31 more Ilvl. My weapon have +7 magic damage. Why the hell is my addlo doing exactly the same as when i'm lvl 70 ?

This is how the scaling works in this game. I remember in HW's launch showing that having two characters at 50 and 60 with precisely the same gear, the level 50's pet actually embraced for significantly more.

To drastically over simplify things, it's like a sliding scale that uses your item level relative to your actual character level. As you level up, the scaling gets ever worse to try and slow down the pace of stat inflation.

[Naychan]

This is how the scaling works in this game. I remember in HW's launch showing that having two characters at 50 and 60 with precisely the same gear, the level 50's pet actually embraced for significantly more.

To drastically over simplify things, it's like a sliding scale that uses your item level relative to your actual character level. As you level up, the scaling gets ever worse to try and slow down the pace of stat inflation.

So my lvl 70/400 gear should last till 80 w/o major repercussions?

[Ftail]

So my lvl 70/400 gear should last till 80 w/o major repercussions?

If you think that's weird, just wait until ilvl jumps up towards the end of the expansion. The other healers will be complaining again that our fairy heals for too much, it's always been like this. On release of an expac our fairies embrace is basically garbage and by the end of the expansion the fairy can almost solo heal entire dungeons with just embrace.

[Naychan]

So just to make sure I have this straight, due to piss poor design healers took a nerf so they would not be OP at the start of the new expansion but we should be back to where we were before the next one. Oh course minus any dps that would be engaging and our mitigation abilities. They could have just made the mobs hit a lot harder if the wanted us to heal more. Now I have 19 abilities between me and my fairy at lvl 80 to choose from and a more boring rotation then a Pokémon at level 5. Does that all sound about right?

[Naychan]

If you think that's weird, just wait until ilvl jumps up towards the end of the expansion. The other healers will be complaining again that our fairy heals for too much, it's always been like this. On release of an expac our fairies embrace is basically garbage and by the end of the expansion the fairy can almost solo heal entire dungeons with just embrace.

Even with them knocking her down 50 potency on her new spaz heal?

[Enla]

Does sacred ground have health regeneration?

Sacred Soil does have a regen tick now, yes. But only as a trait at higher levels. Lower level it's just a barrier.