Thread: Scholar 5.0 Discussion

Embrace should stay same potency but they should rework some of the math in there... but I guess that is a bit too much work perhaps.

I feel like Embrace is fine as it is personally, you can’t rely on it as your main source of healing now but with Seraph and Consolation / Seraphic Veil as well as all the buffs to our healing (Sacred Soil regen, Recitation, Illumination, Dissipation) I’ve never thought to myself ‘wow I wish Embrace was stronger’.

As an aside, would it be too OP if they made Chain Stratagem use Aetherflow on a shorter cooldown like 60s?

Alternatively I saw someone in another thread suggesting aetherflow abilities that give a small buff to the target for dumping unwanted stacks. Like a small damage increase or damage reduction.

Does pretty much the exact same as Energy Drain (converts unused Aetherflow into DPS) but without causing us to have more MP/DPS than the devs want us to have.

As for MP itself, I’ll sometimes hit like 20-25% but I still haven’t reached a situation where I literally had no MP, so I’m honestly a bit unsure about this complaint. Especially now that you can use Recitation to make the next Adloquium and Succor free.

I get that White Mage has like, infinite MP, but that’s kind of it’s thing lol. It wouldn’t be part of the classes identity as the powerful, safe healer with more MP economy if Scholar was the exact same, I think

Originally Posted by LegoTechnic

WHM on the other hand had to watch their refresh timings and plan bard ballad usage.

so much this. and it was barely impossible to find a bard/mch who would agree to do that, since at this time it was for them a DPS loss. so much good memories...


Squix, please, give us back some real complexity. i miss the cleric stance dancing so much !

This just runs counter to every MMO I’ve played in the past 20 years. I get it but it just blows my mind. I’m having some serious WTF moments here.

Just give us back Energy Drain or something similar. We're never going to use all of our Aetherflow for healing without overhealing. Maybe get someone who actually plays Healer on the dev team. The fact that these changes even went live is baffling. Just like with the start of Stormblood, I have to wonder, who actually approves of these changes? They suck. Completely. YoshiP should drop BLM and go play a Healer with the same dedication for a month. Maybe we'd actually have an expansion launch where the healers (or some of them) aren't total trash in comparison to last expansion.

Since we lost Fey Wind and Chain Stratagem got nerfed I'm not sure what the high point of Scholar is? The Cooldown on Chain Strat seems too high for it to be less powerful now if it's the only utility we bring. We definitely don't bring enough raid utility to match Astrologian and our personal DPS is abysmal compared to White Mage. Are we just a powerhouse healer now? I wanna be great at something because I'm playing MY healer and I'm not sure what that thing is as Scholar. I'm having a lot more fun being powerful as White Mage right now.

Hi everyone, I would like to put in my own two cents about Scholar. As a preface, I have been a Scholar since Coil and have cleared every savage except Ultimates. (No time unfortunately.)

I'll try to be succinct, so here are my points:
- My most annoying problem right now is that I have a phantom limb situation with Energy Drain. When I am unable to drop stacks in order to refresh my stacks, I feel like I'm solely wasting perfectly good stacks. I either heal, or I don't, and refresh the stacks. It's mostly very unfulfilling.

- Art of War costs a lot of MP. It is nice to use, but I do think it can be adjusted.

- The inability to reset aetherflow stacks before a tank finishes a pull and establishing aggro means you have to create the situation of being in combat first before you can quick heal the tank. This isn't a problem if you think ahead in the previous battle to save a stack, but I prefer to use my stacks and not keep them sitting around. Unfortunately, I do feel a sense of panic now in between pulls. I know this change was mostly to stop pre-pull waiting, but not having your toolkit ready at the start of a fight is a little stressful.

- The main problem I'm encountering is that in normal raids and 24-man dungeons, there isn't much to do. If your tank isn't tanking, if your party isn't taking damage, you can only use two buttons, three if you want to sacred soil on cooldown. While I understand that these changes were brought in to balance the classes out, I feel there is a lingering dissatisfaction with playing a healer. You really can't do much when you're not needed, and a good group should do their best to minimize their own input of damage. It sort of makes you feel... unhappy to heal. If that makes sense?

- I quite like recitation, I think it's neat and fun to use. Much needed for the class.


I'll be honest, I did not level Scholar first this time around because I wanted to finish the Bard Job Quest before the Scholar one, but in doing so I've noticed (for multiple reasons -- no new healers, the new changes) that healers are almost always in need, because healing at times just... feels like a chore. I feel as if I'm not contributing enough and can not keep my hands busy enough during encounters besides broiling and the occasional single dot.

Currently, I truly feel that the general healer changes have made healing un-fun and a lot of people unhappy, but I hope we can see some changes in the future to recoup the thrill of the battle.

Thank you very much for your time.