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  1. #91
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    Brandedblade's Avatar
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    Gunther Frey
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Riblet View Post
    If you're using Physick, you've already hit rock bottom.

    Also we had an amazing thing for weaving already. They were called Pet Skills. You could use them while you were casting anything.
    Oh I'm sorry, I forget, gcd heals are evil. DPS is all that matters. It's not like there are moments where rock bottom happens and it's nice to be able to double up on a heal by weaving an off-global on it. Just because it's not a frequent thing doesn't mean it's a bad thing to have.
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  2. #92
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    Semirhage's Avatar
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    Nemene Damendar
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Brandedblade View Post
    Oh I'm sorry, I forget, gcd heals are evil. DPS is all that matters.
    People deprioritizing the least efficient abilities in their kits? Madness. Next people will say BLMs should avoid using Scathe if they can help it.
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  3. #93
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    NobleWinter's Avatar
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    Winter Gem
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    The shining light in all this is that we will be able to use Lustrate instead of Sacred Soil in Aurumn Vale. What a time to be alive!

    I am quite perplexed by a lot of changes they made tho. We can summon our Fairy faster than ever but finally got Dissipation to bring her back automatically. Losing all of Selene's abilities and not Selene is hilarious. I understand that Fey Wind was problematic because all classes had their GCD speed built around the idea they might encounter Fey Wind and Arrow but couldn't we just get a different skill set for her? And what's with not being able to use Aetherflow outside of combat? That's going to make using stacks tricky when a mob is about to die and you know you won't be able to press the button after their dead but you want it on Cooldown while you travel to the next pack especially since it is going to be more vital for MP with Energy Drain gone. I actually imagine we may be using Aetherflow on Cooldown for MP and ignore how many stacks we have since they can only be used for healing. We don't technically have to use them all... Building Fey Gauge before you have access to Seraph is going to be a monster too. It doesn't feel like we have anything to compensate for losing the Quickened Aetherflow Trait in all the Stormblood content to build Fey Union. I would think that using Dissipation should count toward the gauge as a reasonable trade by adding 30 points on execution. Losing all the flavor of our DPS is bad but there seems to be a lot of functional questions in mind about how Scholar as a whole will play. I hope it's fun with the new adjustments for damage across the board.
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    Last edited by NobleWinter; 06-28-2019 at 02:20 PM.

  4. #94
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Inkpot View Post
    If you take away the kit the fairy becomes painful to have around. Instead of being a cool tool that permits you to have a different toolkit from other healers, it becomes a crutch that does 50% of your job for you. The fairy will make SCH even more boring than WHM, because most of the time you won’t even need to heal, freeing your time up to mash the broil button for the entire encounter.
    It really sounds like you are describing SB SCH and not what SCH will become. The pruning of SCHs skills is what gives players the perception that it will be boring to play in ShB; it really doesn't have anything to do with the fairy. Lily's Embrace heals are basically full time mini Excogs on any party member in her range. Even more so now with the cast time removed, and I wouldn't be surprised if it is taken away completely in a future expansion.
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  5. #95
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    Loki's Avatar
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    Loki Vanheim
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    Spriggan
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I can't wait to test it even if on paper it looks borring as hell i just want to be sure of that and then maybe stop to play this job i love...

    How SE can think we will be happy as healer with this.

    Facilitation, homogeneity are killing games nowadays and plz SE stop to think new players / casual players just want or are capable of pushing only 3 buttons....it's just borring
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  6. #96
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    JohnSeal's Avatar
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    Character
    Andre Cat
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    Lich
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    Red Mage Lv 60
    The Sch updates left me hearth broken, I have PSTDs since the live letter and I have complained since that. I main Sch for two years, it’s part of me and that part is officially dead. I will finish main scenario with my Sch because the class represents me but then I won’t play till we dont get our dignity and identity back!
    We lost our dps rotations, mana management skill (Ed) and now we need to even clip to use our fairy buff so basically we became the Whm -_- . No fast aetherflow and 1 dot. I have been waiting since the begin of SB for another dot ! Thanks to all people jealous about the Sch since always, well done

    Still the Ast is technically just horrible. Not just for dmg output but for all the rest
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  7. #97
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    Eloah's Avatar
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    I'm glad to have fellow SCHs here to echo my sentiments. While reviewing the skills, I was told I was "complaining" that Dissipation still sucks, and that charging the fey gauge will take a lot longer now. But, It's nice to see I'm not alone.

    Also anyone else think the Art of War(stupid name for a spell) icon looks like someone Tebowing? MCHs dabs, maybe SCHs will Tebow, it'll be a funny bonus to all these horrible nerfs.
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    Last edited by Eloah; 06-28-2019 at 06:12 PM.
    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

  8. #98
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    Ezikiel's Avatar
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    Ezikiel Bismarck
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 78
    so pet heal is on full auto now you cant choose who it heals?
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  9. #99
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    Ramziez's Avatar
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    Xida Mhasi
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    I'm glad to have fellow SCHs here to echo my sentiments. While reviewing the skills, I was told I was "complaining" that Dissipation still sucks, and that charging the fey gauge will take a lot longer now. But, It's nice to see I'm not alone.

    Also anyone else think the Art of War(stupid name for a spell) icon looks like someone Tebowing? MCHs dabs, maybe SCHs will Tebow, it'll be a funny bonus to all these horrible nerfs.
    The worst part about Art of War besides its supid name is how boring the animation is. It's literally just a PvP skill animation put on SCH. And it is so underwhelming to use. You casually hit the ground and a less than impressive aura appears from it. It's not some massive magic explosion like Gravity or Holy. Just, hit the ground weak sound happens, and a tiny purple AOE appears around you. At least Misama 3 sounded impressive and gave you that satasfying sound of every enemy around you taking DoT damage.
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  10. #100
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    Alphras's Avatar
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    Rojer Alphras
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    You can't use fairy skills while casting anymore .... why does SCH even have one? They are only normal off globals now.

    Edit: And healing magic still doesn't increase ability healing, which means Dissipation is still useless.

    These were the changes I was sure Square is keeping in mind, but the healer redesign is as mindless as it seemed in the beginning.
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    Last edited by Alphras; 06-29-2019 at 12:35 AM.

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