Thread: Scholar 5.0 Discussion

Originally Posted by LeonTrifang

Not much is changing. I like that we are all becoming pure healers. I do hate that we are losing energy drain, and the ability to tell our fairy who to heal, but we aren’t losing anything crucial to our kit. Except energy drain..... which I really hope we get back lol

Bane is absolutely more valuable than an ED on even just two targets. You’re saving two GCDs. That’s equal to two broils. Good lord.

Anyway the fundamental advantage to SCH has always been that the fairy handles some healing for you, so you can afford a more complex dps rotation. This does not mean explicitly more damage, as they were outdamaged by AST, but a more unique and interesting playstyle.

If you take away the kit the fairy becomes painful to have around. Instead of being a cool tool that permits you to have a different toolkit from other healers, it becomes a crutch that does 50% of your job for you. The fairy will make SCH even more boring than WHM, because most of the time you won’t even need to heal, freeing your time up to mash the broil button for the entire encounter.

If you wanted an ultra-simplistic WoW-like experience in Stormblood you could play WHM, with one damage spell, one oGCD burst, and two dots, compared to SCH’s two damage spells, three dots, and four oGCDs! Now BOTH are even more simplistic than Stormblood WHM, with no major decreases in healing potencies.

It’s homogenizing the healers for no reason.

Originally Posted by Inkpot

If you take away the kit the fairy becomes painful to have around. Instead of being a cool tool that permits you to have a different toolkit from other healers, it becomes a crutch that does 50% of your job for you. The fairy will make SCH even more boring than WHM, because most of the time you won’t even need to heal, freeing your time up to mash the broil button for the entire encounter.

It really sounds like you are describing SB SCH and not what SCH will become. The pruning of SCHs skills is what gives players the perception that it will be boring to play in ShB; it really doesn't have anything to do with the fairy. Lily's Embrace heals are basically full time mini Excogs on any party member in her range. Even more so now with the cast time removed, and I wouldn't be surprised if it is taken away completely in a future expansion.

SCH was my go to healer. The skills that they chose to remove are some of the most integral parts to scholars identity and what made scholar satisfying to play. I really hope they reconsider these changes...also art of war is fugly

Bringing back a dead thread due to it having the appropriate title. I'm sincerely hoping that all angry schs can decide to stay on one thread this time. That being said, is it time to riot again? Potency and mana costs seem to be the same as the media tour. So are we ready to jump ship now? Burn down the forums again? What's the mood?

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/scholar/
I noticed that there’s basically no cost to fairy spells now, as the recast time is gone. So rather than strategically timing these, I guess it’s a case of keeping them up the entire time going forwards. Curious to hear what others think.

Originally Posted by Deceptus

Changes from the media tour:

Consolation 150>300 pot

Fey Blessing 250>350 pot

Indom 500>400 pot

SSoil: 20% chance for free succor removed

Physick is now a 1.5s cast (great for weaving if we had anything to weave with. . . )

Also something to note:





Before, SCH pets weren't affected by Maim and Mend. Now they are. We'll see how that plays with the numbers

Hey look, we got another weaving tool, great for commanding your fairy or doing a lustrate when you have a squishy tank.

Originally Posted by Brandedblade

Hey look, we got another weaving tool, great for commanding your fairy or doing a lustrate when you have a squishy tank.

If you're using Physick, you've already hit rock bottom.

Also we had an amazing thing for weaving already. They were called Pet Skills. You could use them while you were casting anything.