Multi-Discipline Ending Quest - Can You Not?

[Unholychinchilla]

If you're going to place restrictions in how you play on yourself based on then eventually you will miss out on something. If you really can't bring yourself to do any OOC activity in this game then as said, your only option is to make a character for whom the multi-disciplinary approach is in character. There's some potentially interesting concepts down that road.

You're also assuming this is the proper ending to the role quests that none of them will be complete without. There's good odds it's just a couple of cutscenes to give you a pat on the back and then dole out whatever reward comes attached to it. It may end up having the same amount of story impact as the quests for collecting all the primal mount drops, which add a bit of lore on those mounts but aren't required for a full appreciation of the content that unlocks them.

[kidalutz]

So in the patch notes, there is a quest that cannot be taken unless a character has completed all four of the discipline quests: tank, healer, physical DPS, and magic DPS.

I know I’m perhaps just being stubborn, but I don’t think this requirement is fair.

My characters generally follow one of the disciplines. The fantasy I have in my mind for them precludes the possibility of, for example, my tank taking to the back lines and throwing spells, or my SMN/SCH picking up a sword and shield and holding the front line with her complete lack of musculature (she’s effectively a bookworm).

Locking a quest behind the requirement that these characters break with the fantasy I’ve established for them means that it’s a quest I’ll probably never get to see, because it doesn’t feel right to bring up these disciplines on them (never mind that it effectively means grinding them through PotD/HoH, which is a mode of gameplay that I do not enjoy).

It would be one thing to tie an achievement or a specific award to getting each discipline up—that would be something I and others like me could ignore. However, making it a quest, which presumably has lore revelations and cutscenes and the like, effectively requires people to play the game in a way that was previously entirely optional.

You misread this entirely It say you must have completed at least one of the role quests to be able to complete the main scenario not all of them.

[Jpec07]

You misread this entirely It say you must have completed at least one of the role quests to be able to complete the main scenario not all of them.

Not talking about MSQ. There is a fifth quest listed at the bottom of the discipline quests that has a requirement of needing all 4 discipline quests completed on a single character to access.

[Dualblade]

Personally I'm rather happy for this final role quest, it's even given me incentive to get up some of my jobs earlier then my lazy bump usually would.

[Nora_of_Mira]

EDIT: Also worth noting that I’m not really panicking, lol. Just making a thread to request a change. It’s cool that y’all have no problem with this requirement/incentive. It just bothers me that to experience this quest, I will either have to change the fantasy for the characters I’ve come to love, or create an entirely new one who will undoubtedly feel absurdly OP.

i really hope they dont make a change like this to accommodate someone's fantasy. This is the story they want to tell, in a way they want to tell it.

[Felis]

They should change the reqirement for the quest to DoW, DoM, DoH and DoL

[Jpec07]

i really hope they dont make a change like this to accommodate someone's fantasy. This is the story they want to tell, in a way they want to tell it.

I made this thread because I had the feeling I wasn’t the only person who felt like this was a little bit unfair. Lots of people are trying to shout it down, but the original post is accruing likes. It’s fine to disagree, but I hope you recognize that we all approach and play the game differently, and that as long as we can succeed at group content, no one way is better or worse than another.

[Tsumdere]

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So... you want something that is very easy to achieve to be changed because of your personal self-imposed RP restriction? In that case, my character would never fight primals since he is just a simple BSM, so it's unfair to have story locked behind them. Please change Squeenix.

Moreover, you don't have to do PotD/HoH to level a class. Run the classes you don't like through alliance/main scenario roulette (you can basically play like a rock in both as long as you do mechanics if needed) + beast tribes once a day until done. It's what I did for all of the classes I dislike like NIN/MNK. Takes like two weeks a job if you do it every day. Seriously, just level it up and then toss the weapon away.

[Dualblade]

I made this thread because I had the feeling I wasn’t the only person who felt like this was a little bit unfair. Lots of people are trying to shout it down, but the original post is accruing likes. It’s fine to disagree, but I hope you recognize that we all approach and play the game differently, and that as long as we can succeed at group content, no one way is better or worse than another.

If we go by "likes" more posts who like what the devs are doing have more likes individually compared to the original post against it.

[Iscah]

Exactly. I have alts for these things—while melee DPS and ranged DPS aren’t my cuppa, I do have characters for them. I just have a problem with having a single character who, according to job lore, is THE one and only new Warrior AND THE one and only Dark Knight AND THE one and only Monk AND THE one and only Bard AND THE one and only White Mage AND THE one and only Black Mage, etc. Doesn’t feel realistic to me, at all.

Would it be helpful to pick out less-unique classes? Eg. WHM and SCH are unique but AST is not, and apparently reasonably common in Sharlayan. We know at least six individual astrologians.

We're not the only bard, either - Sanson is trying to establish a whole unit of them. MCH is also more of a team effort and Stephanivien is quite eager to hand out his gizmos to anyone who is interested.

And you could at least pretend you're one of the several new recruits Widargelt has found to revive the Fist of Rhalgr.

(You only have to justify three roles out of four... or two out of four if you use your canon summoner/scholar.)

Yoshi literally said that in order to complete the MSQ, you need to complete ONE of the Role quest storylines.

Which means the extra quest for completing all four is entirely optional.

Optional for gameplay - which in this game does not mean optional for the full experience of the story.

The Binding Coil is entirely optional and difficult to clear in the normal course of gameplay.

We're just about to get an entire expansion that hinges off the still-optional events of the Crystal Tower.

And the fate of the Isle of Val, first raised in the MSQ back in 2.X, is resolved in Eureka - with the story's proper resolution in the "optional challenge" Baldesion Arsenal.

With each of the four role quests following one of the Warriors of Darkness, I fully expect them all to be necessary for a complete picture of the story, and the capstone quest will resolve it.