Healer boycott in 5.0

[Brandedblade]

Attitudes like yours are quite literally ruining this game for competent and capable healers FYI.

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[Sebazy]

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Is it actually worth me expanding on why I feel this way? This thread is enough of a train wreck as it is and I honestly didn't want to post in it at all

It wasn't our attitude that created the idea that anyone not spending every GCD on damage is bad.

Actually I'd argue that it was.

Very very few if any top flight healers will ever suggest that you should be blowing every GCD on damage. This is just bluster that's made up to justify this whole pointless argument.

ABC, Always Be Casting is step one.

Being alert is step two.

GCD efficiency is step three.

But that doesn't fit the agenda nearly as well does it? =(

[Knoahl]

Is it actually worth me expanding on why I feel this way? This thread is enough of a train wreck as it is and I honestly didn't want to post in it at all

That it is, and I think you have expanded many times why you feel that way, it's just a shame this person chooses to act like a goldfish in every thread he has been in.

We should focus on being constructive, I really think consolidating the information we have gathered amongst our own findings at launch is the best way to go forward, then we can give proper elucidated feedback on how we can improve the healer feel and gameplay as the expansion progresses and hopefully lead up to a well made 4th healer. Better late than never, it's about time we got the actual opinions on healers out not the "iz oki plz wait until out" like we have like Stormbloods Lilies etc.

[kidalutz]

That it is, and I think you have expanded many times why you feel that way, it's just a shame this person chooses to act like a goldfish in every thread he has been in.

We should focus on being constructive, I really think consolidating the information we have gathered amongst our own findings at launch is the best way to go forward, then we can give proper elucidated feedback on how we can improve the healer feel and gameplay as the expansion progresses and hopefully lead up to a well made 4th healer. Better late than never, it's about time we got the actual opinions on healers out not the "iz oki plz wait until out" like we have like Stormbloods Lilies etc.

This is what I've said for weeks all its gotten me has been We dont need to wait to post about it WE KNOW HOW IT WILL BE! to the point that frankly I'd be surprised if they even deign to listen to the feedback once its gathered unless people do it as dispassionately as possible.and just go with cold logic.

[Knoahl]

This is what I've said for weeks all its gotten me has been We dont need to wait to post about it WE KNOW HOW IT WILL BE! to the point that frankly I'd be surprised if they even deign to listen to the feedback once its gathered unless people do it as dispassionately as possible.and just go with cold logic.

I agree, it's just since the devs have said wait until its out until we give feedback, if we can give like a good thread after launch it's like our last ditch effort I suppose. It's just a shame we can't have just tested the game prior launch and actually have given them useful and constructive feedback, and... here I go repeating myself also haha

here is hopeing for a way forward in patches and the next expansion even if its a long road

[kidalutz]

I agree, it's just since the devs have said wait until its out until we give feedback, if we can give like a good thread after launch it's like our last ditch effort I suppose. It's just a shame we can't have just tested the game prior launch and actually have given them useful and constructive feedback, and... here I go repeating myself also haha

here is hopeing for a way forward in patches and the next expansion even if its a long road

Agreed good sir.

[Kabooa]

Actually I'd argue that it was.

Very very few if any top flight healers will ever suggest that you should be blowing every GCD on damage. This is just bluster that's made up to justify this whole pointless argument.

So let me ask you which one gets telephoned worse.

"Keep your party alive. Everything else is bonus."

"Your GCDs are better put towards damage because your OGCDs are enough."

Further, all that guy said, essentially, is that good healers are good at managing their stuff. He wasn't the one firing off that the healers in question are 'bad' for playing one way or another. He might be insinuating they're on the wrong job (Ergo, "Green DPS" from "Healers with DPS"), but call them bad?

No. That came from the healer.

And it's not just with him. I've had discussions here, quite recently, where those involved flat out lie about their own capability because apparently if anyone admits to using a GCD heal, their opinion must be discredited because 'no one needs to use them'.

That attitude didn't come from a DPS or a Tank player. Most of us frankly don't care how you spend your downtime so long as we don't spend ours face down in the dirt from neglect.

[Rubiss]

Is it actually worth me expanding on why I feel this way? This thread is enough of a train wreck as it is and I honestly didn't want to post in it at all



Actually I'd argue that it was.

Very very few if any top flight healers will ever suggest that you should be blowing every GCD on damage. This is just bluster that's made up to justify this whole pointless argument.

ABC, Always Be Casting is step one.

Being alert is step two.

GCD efficiency is step three.

But that doesn't fit the agenda nearly as well does it? =(

Best part is, if you follow ABC, you'll quickly learn that you have to DPS as a healer and quite a lot too. Anyone who doesn't DPS as a healer is objectively overhealing beyond belief or being carried. You simply cannot in good faith spam heals for the entire encounter. Even with this babytier rotation, bad healers will continue to spam heals and do nothing else. At least give those who give a damn the tools to have our filler fun.