Healer boycott in 5.0

[Almatiel]

Personally, I couldn't decide for quite some time if i want to play as healer or not in ShB. None of the changes are appealing to me and new tools doesnt look that interesting.
Only reason why I still wanted to play as healer is fast queues ....but i guess trust system will be a thing, so I will just play as blm since not only this job gets qulity of life changes, but new tools to expand blm's rotation as well.

[Knoahl]

Personally, I couldn't decide for quite some time if i want to play as healer or not in ShB. None of the changes are appealing to me and new tools doesnt look that interesting.
Only reason why I still wanted to play as healer is fast queues ....but i guess trust system will be a thing, so I will just play as blm since not only this job gets qulity of life changes, but new tools to expand blm's rotation as well.

Hopefully they get some nicer changes in patches post launch so you can play what you enjoy again, but thats a good idea, I'm thinking of doing the same for my first to level to enjoy the expansion, then I will likely heal after since I'll have the experience boost and I can just heal dungeons, no way I'm questing as a healer.

[Neoyoshi]

I love these things, they are so fun to watch.

[Silver-Strider]

Don't really care about AST or their card changes so its whatever for me.
I'll live with SCH changes. Hate losing my DPS but I'll manage and who knows, maybe their add back Energy Drain so I'm not totally twiddling my Aether Stacks needlessly.
WHM is pretty much unchanged for me so again, I'll manage.

[Knoahl]

Don't really care about AST or their card changes so its whatever for me.
I'll live with SCH changes. Hate losing my DPS but I'll manage and who knows, maybe their add back Energy Drain so I'm not totally twiddling my Aether Stacks needlessly.
WHM is pretty much unchanged for me so again, I'll manage.

Yeah, the healers are definately far from unplayable, we just need to make sure we effectively feedback how we want to see them improved, maybe we could make a thread consolidating all of the healer feedback and all of us upvote it so its easy for them to find, maybe a discord to organise it and collect all the feedback and consolidate it could be an option.

what does everyone think?

[Alathon]

Yeah, the healers are definately far from unplayable, we just need to make sure we effectively feedback how we want to see them improved, maybe we could make a thread consolidating all of the healer feedback and all of us upvote it so its easy for them to find, maybe a discord to organise it and collect all the feedback and consolidate it could be an option.

what does everyone think?

It's important to emphasize this, that the classes are not 'broken' or 'unplayable', the problem is that they look to be braindead, homogeneous, and boring. This moves the discussion away from irrelevant ripostes regarding potency changes.

[Atlantasia]

Yeah, the healers are definately far from unplayable, we just need to make sure we effectively feedback how we want to see them improved, maybe we could make a thread consolidating all of the healer feedback and all of us upvote it so its easy for them to find, maybe a discord to organise it and collect all the feedback and consolidate it could be an option.

what does everyone think?

I'd be fine with that. But I'm sure not everyone would be. I just don't get why the people satisfied with heal only seem to be upset because other people want more to do... it doesn't even effect them by adding more to do on the side. :/

[Knoahl]

I'd be fine with that. But I'm sure not everyone would be. I just don't get why the people satisfied with heal only seem to be upset because other people want more to do... it doesn't even effect them by adding more to do on the side. :/

That's it, asking for more to what we have on the side to help the "feel" of the classes isn't being unreasonable, it's just giving feedback. If we can do that then they can review it and make a decision themselves. It doesn't harm the pure healers as they can now pure heal as all 3, it just gives us more to do so I dont see why we shouldnt put together our efforts.

[Writer]

I'd be fine with that. But I'm sure not everyone would be. I just don't get why the people satisfied with heal only seem to be upset because other people want more to do... it doesn't even effect them by adding more to do on the side. :/

Going by interviews - I think it was either Gamerescape or Famitsu - its because there were signs of a lot of healers (especially Scholars) that played their class more as Green DPS then as healers with a DPS kit. The difference is priority - Green DPS players would heal up if absolutely necessary or not heal until after the fight even if players died. Healers with a DPS kit tend to DPS on freedom but put attention on healing. I've had runs in several dungeons - especially Copperbell Hard for some reason - where the entire party kept wiping because the healers would not heal through a fight.

Right now I feel like healers were stripped to the barest minimum so they can see how much they can add before people are spending more time caring about DPS then healing.

[Alathon]

Going by interviews - I think it was either Gamerescape or Famitsu - its because there were signs of a lot of healers (especially Scholars) that played their class more as Green DPS then as healers with a DPS kit. The difference is priority - Green DPS players would heal up if absolutely necessary or not heal until after the fight even if players died. Healers with a DPS kit tend to DPS on freedom but put attention on healing. I've had runs in several dungeons - especially Copperbell Hard for some reason - where the entire party kept wiping because the healers would not heal through a fight.

Right now I feel like healers were stripped to the barest minimum so they can see how much they can add before people are spending more time caring about DPS then healing.

I suspect that those who were so negligent that they failed pop an excog/physick as needed, will not be moved by their DPS rotation being more or less boring. Their parses (lol) require adherence to mathematical formula, not fun.