Going to the same route as WoW. The game is TOO easy

[LeoLupinos]

The problem is not about difficulty. It's about enjoyment. It's useless if it's difficult and not fun. Eureka is proof of this.
What I can't bear is simplicity. Complexity guarantees perpetuity of content, either fun or boring. Simple content don't last long, even if it's fun, it's useless in the short term.

With that said, I feel that the dev team is erasing complex parts of this game, without filling the complexity lack with something more complete. Let's take for example the Materia system... It's slowly fading. They remove, but they don't improve. Same with Leves and alot more systems that could bring more to the game, but they are slowly removing from the game. Same for Crowd control skills, why remove them? Why don't they start producing content that forces the use of these skills? It's easier to remove and to stay in the same formula I guess. Removing skills will just turn the leveling even more boring...

[AxlStream]

The challenge is the community itself most of the time. Can you dodge all the PF traps that are getting more and more clever at disguising themselves? Tune in to Shadowbringers for an exiting game of Party Finder EX/Savage

[Hitori]

In XI, every single level felt like an adventure. It was always a challenge and that made it, almost always, fun because that's what people enjoy. I get some people might not want to have to deal with such challeneges on a daily basis, but, IMO, the sense of fullfilment is dminished because of the scarcity of such challenge. Outside of modern MMOs there is no game / genre that makes / forces its players to get to the last 10% of the game to actually enjoy its challenge.

[Kalise]

Then you should have said then what you just said now instead of generalizing a whole group of players by just saying 'Casuals'.

I'm pretty sure I specifically said "Casuls"

That's not a spelling mistake. That's the term for the entitled whiners.

You're the one who was generalizing a whole group of players by taking reference to "Casuls" (Also, specifically, people who whine about how hard their life is. Which is not done by most players) to mean all people under the term "Casual players"

Which is ironic, since, I myself am a casual player. I even have a huge backlog of games I want to play, but don't get the time to because real life is a thing.

[Noitems]

Except this is different. Hard content exists. Saying the game is easy when never having done any of said content is like saying building rockets and spaceships is easy without ever having been an aerospace engineer.

Your example fails because movies are watchable content. You can critizice the acting, script and such after watching it if there were things you didn't like. What is closer to the topic is saying "star wars is terrible" without ever having watched any of the movies.

The story is easy, like most final fantasy games. Then you have the extra content, which is harder, also like most final fantasy games.

This statement right here. You can criticize anything that's always gonna be an allowed thing. However the moment you make a claim like that the content is easy without doing the harder stuff you lose all credibility.

XIV I would say is full of accessibility. Having it's content tiered and catered to those who have their preferences is what makes it great.

Do you care only about the story? Just do the normal versions of the raids/trials

Do you want something more challenging? Do the EX versions of trials or the savage versions of the raids.

Do you need something even more then that? Do Ultimate.

There's offerings to go for, but if you're not even going to run the hard stuff your complaints are just going to be water off a duck's back.

[AxlStream]

I'd also like to just remind everyone of the threads of constant whining we had about Shinryu on release... Shinryu normal. You're ready for the repeat of whatever the final boss of Shadowbringers will be?

[Driavna]

Well, ARR never aimed to be hardcore or anything like. There is an interview to Yoshida and he claims that the game was designed with people having a life outside it (https://youtu.be/ONT6fxiu9cw?t=789).

Like it or not current FF14 was designed to be a casual friendly game with some hard, and fun, content here and there. Just happens to not be the main focus of the game.

[Kaitoo]

Except this is different.

If you say its different and dont provide an argument the subject matter doesnt change

Hard content exists.

Literally nobody made the claim hard content doesn't exist. The OP actually pointed that out.
That's strawman and arguing in bad faith

Saying the game is easy when never having done any of said content is like saying building rockets and spaceships is easy without ever having been an aerospace engineer.

No its not. There is an objective measure there. You need certain experience and qualification that its quantified to even build one. You doesn't need anyone of those to play a videogame. Also aeropspace engineers dont "built" rockets or spaceships, btw.

Your example fails because movies are watchable content. You can critizice the acting, script and such after watching it if there were things you didn't like. What is closer to the topic is saying "star wars is terrible" without ever having watched any of the movies.

Thats an oxymoron. I can say star wars is terrible without even know how movies are filmed, because i watched it and it was terrible for me. At the same time i can say this game, that i played, is to easy. I dont need to play this on any difficulty to justify it otherwise.
Its like you cant say a game is bad until you have 100% achievements, cause you dont actually exprienced all of the game, what an insane logic for justifying gatekeeping and ad hominem

The story is easy, like most final fantasy games. Then you have the extra content, which is harder, also like most final fantasy games.

The point of the thread was the opinion that somewhat thought it was to easy. Ironic that you know assume the same authority to most ff games are easy on the story part.

[Skyclaw726]

In XI, every single level felt like an adventure. It was always a challenge and that made it, almost always, fun because that's what people enjoy. I get some people might not want to have to deal with such challeneges on a daily basis, but, IMO, the sense of fullfilment is dminished because of the scarcity of such challenge. Outside of modern MMOs there is no game / genre that makes / forces its players to get to the last 10% of the game to actually enjoy its challenge.

I'm telling you every single game does this. Every game starts easy and progressively gets harder unless your claiming World 1 of Mario bros 3 is as easy as World 7 with only World 8 providing a challenge.

[Myrasil]

That has nothing to do with ops claim and is gatekeeping. Its also kinda silly, along of the lines of you need to a filmmaker to critize star wars or something

I would not say its gatekeeping, his opinion still valid as any opinion really, and your exemple was not a bright one, to critize the movie both people (the filmmaker and the common guys) had to watch the movie to have a more realistic opinion on the matter, so the gatekeep would happen after both said what they think and only the filmmaker would be "valid".
if one of the parts does not watch it, it still consider a valid point? in part yes, but it will not be a realistic review of what it really was.

On topic:
I see a lot of people strugling hard on normal dungeons, ignoring any advice you give to them, god even my friends got shamed for trying to help a green leave "you can't tell me what i need to do" - the normal game difficultie is fine.
And about comunity, oh boy, if you have difficulties on finding a comunnity you must be really trying to not interact with people, tons of FC's around, mentor chat is full, discord hunting community, pvp comunitty, etc...
Its look more you are looking for something to complain about.