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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitoo View Post
    That has nothing to do with ops claim and is gatekeeping. Its also kinda silly, along of the lines of you need to a filmmaker to critize star wars or something
    Except this is different. Hard content exists. Saying the game is easy when never having done any of said content is like saying building rockets and spaceships is easy without ever having been an aerospace engineer.

    Your example fails because movies are watchable content. You can critizice the acting, script and such after watching it if there were things you didn't like. What is closer to the topic is saying "star wars is terrible" without ever having watched any of the movies.

    The story is easy, like most final fantasy games. Then you have the extra content, which is harder, also like most final fantasy games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Except this is different. Hard content exists. Saying the game is easy when never having done any of said content is like saying building rockets and spaceships is easy without ever having been an aerospace engineer.

    Your example fails because movies are watchable content. You can critizice the acting, script and such after watching it if there were things you didn't like. What is closer to the topic is saying "star wars is terrible" without ever having watched any of the movies.

    The story is easy, like most final fantasy games. Then you have the extra content, which is harder, also like most final fantasy games.
    This statement right here. You can criticize anything that's always gonna be an allowed thing. However the moment you make a claim like that the content is easy without doing the harder stuff you lose all credibility.

    XIV I would say is full of accessibility. Having it's content tiered and catered to those who have their preferences is what makes it great.

    Do you care only about the story? Just do the normal versions of the raids/trials

    Do you want something more challenging? Do the EX versions of trials or the savage versions of the raids.

    Do you need something even more then that? Do Ultimate.

    There's offerings to go for, but if you're not even going to run the hard stuff your complaints are just going to be water off a duck's back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
    This statement right here. You can criticize anything that's always gonna be an allowed thing. However the moment you make a claim like that the content is easy without doing the harder stuff you lose all credibility.
    Imagine saying DMC (capital M) is too easy...

    ...while having never done DMD or Hell and Hell.

    Alternatively, the sentiment I've gathered can be explained in a hypothetical conversation:

    "Baseline content isn't challenging. This game isn't challenging enough."
    "Try the harder content!"
    "...no."

    Is that super reductive? Yeah, but I'm a huge fan of hyperbole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Except this is different.
    If you say its different and dont provide an argument the subject matter doesnt change

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Hard content exists.
    Literally nobody made the claim hard content doesn't exist. The OP actually pointed that out.
    That's strawman and arguing in bad faith


    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Saying the game is easy when never having done any of said content is like saying building rockets and spaceships is easy without ever having been an aerospace engineer.
    No its not. There is an objective measure there. You need certain experience and qualification that its quantified to even build one. You doesn't need anyone of those to play a videogame. Also aeropspace engineers dont "built" rockets or spaceships, btw.


    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Your example fails because movies are watchable content. You can critizice the acting, script and such after watching it if there were things you didn't like. What is closer to the topic is saying "star wars is terrible" without ever having watched any of the movies.
    Thats an oxymoron. I can say star wars is terrible without even know how movies are filmed, because i watched it and it was terrible for me. At the same time i can say this game, that i played, is to easy. I dont need to play this on any difficulty to justify it otherwise.
    Its like you cant say a game is bad until you have 100% achievements, cause you dont actually exprienced all of the game, what an insane logic for justifying gatekeeping and ad hominem


    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    The story is easy, like most final fantasy games. Then you have the extra content, which is harder, also like most final fantasy games.
    The point of the thread was the opinion that somewhat thought it was to easy. Ironic that you know assume the same authority to most ff games are easy on the story part.
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