Feeling punished for having alts...

[Skivvy]

If SE truly didn't want alts to be made, they could have simply left it as one character per service account.

While a lot of people don't see the value in having alts, there are plenty of reasons why people make them. At the very least, I'd like to see them be able to mail things to each other and share housing.

[Melichoir]

It's not even remotely recent. We had shared bank slots back in EverQuest.

I didnt say it was all, but having a massive shared bank system was not a part of many mainstream MMOs. This still doesnts solve what I said regarding shared banking - you wont be getting any advantage on shared banking other than you can transfer items slightly more effectively than current. Thats it. You wont be getting 'larger' bank slots to compensate, youd end up getting less storage space per account. This would be a detriment to people who run alts for Crafting Purposes.

If anything, anyone who wants a shared bank system, why? What is it you store in your bank slots that you need access to that cannot be mailed? Cause what do people use bank slots for?

Tokens from bosses/raids - will be character bound.
Crafting/Gathering materials - Shared banking will actually hurt your storage capabilities, not help them. Anything that is untradeable will be character bound pretty much.
Glamour Outfits - Would be predominately character bound unless it was set up account wide item (which is already mailed to you on creation of a new character right now.)
Pets - Character bound
Mounts - Character bound
Gil - You can transfer 1 million at a time. What exactly are you spending excessively high amounts of gil on that youd need to have full access to it that you couldnt do by sending a few letters?

Youre not getting a better deal out of this unless you start requesting changes to the above as well. Keeping them separate at least grants you two retainers with 175 slots each, so each alt gets 350 new spots for inventory (not even including saddlebag).

The game is designed around you having one character that does it all. With NG+ coming, the necessity for alts becomes even less significant outside of how a lot of people use them for extra storage or crafters.

The only suggestion I can see having some merit here is having alts have access to one characters house. That I can see being an ok thing.

Beyond that, youre not being punished. Youre just starting from scratch. Thats it.

[MistyMew]

If they didn't expect/want us to have alts we would not be allowed to have multiple characters created... period. To say we shouldn't is absurd.

More things do need to be account based/shared.
Mounts, reputation, a bit of bank space, implementation of account bound gear, ability to mail to all alts on any server etc.

please se , enter this century.

You do some wonderful and amazing things in this game, now please add some common sense for alts.
tyty

[Niwashi]

This still doesnts solve what I said regarding shared banking - you wont be getting any advantage on shared banking other than you can transfer items slightly more effectively than current. Thats it.

Of course that's it. That's the whole purpose of why people are asking for it.

Currently, you have to set up a private FC to be able to have a shared bank where you can transfer stuff between your alts, but that means having to forego the social purpose of an FC, since you can't be in more than one.

We'd like something like the FC chest but which is shared among our alts rather than among our FC-mates.

[Jojoya]

If they didn't expect/want us to have alts we would not be allowed to have multiple characters created... period. To say we shouldn't is absurd.

More things do need to be account based/shared.
Mounts, reputation, a bit of bank space, implementation of account bound gear, ability to mail to all alts on any server etc.

please se , enter this century.

You do some wonderful and amazing things in this game, now please add some common sense for alts.
tyty

You're welcome to have alts if you want.

But you're also welcome to have each alt put in the effort needed to get the rewards you want for it rather than having one character do all the work to feed the rest.

About the only requests I agree with is the ability to send mail between your own characters and to share a house since houses are per account not character.

Common sense says if you want something on an alt, then you should earn it on that alt. There's nothing stopping you from going out and earning a mount or title for your alt if you want that alt to have that mount or title.

[SaberMaxwell]

You're welcome to have alts if you want.

But you're also welcome to have each alt put in the effort needed to get the rewards you want for it rather than having one character do all the work to feed the rest.

If you're looking at it as though your characters are each independent entities, sure. It's equally valid to say that they are not, and are instead themselves puppets of the player--avatars for them, if you will. From that point of view, my character didn't do the work, I did, so saying that one character is doing all the work to feed the rest feels like an odd statement.

Common sense says if you want something on an alt, then you should earn it on that alt. There's nothing stopping you from going out and earning a mount or title for your alt if you want that alt to have that mount or title.

There's plenty stopping me from clearing Ultimate on an alt character right now: time, gear, and a team to name a few. Again, my character didn't do the work to kill Ultimate, I did.

Have I killed Ultimate on an alt? Yes. I would like, however, that at least some achievements be recognized account-wide.

[CazzT]

If you're looking at it as though your characters are each independent entities, sure. It's equally valid to say that they are not, and are instead themselves puppets of the player--avatars for them, if you will.

Except it's not. Literally nothing about the story could even be twisted to imply or say this about the characters. The "multiple worlds" don't even have copies of us that made different choices. It's literally unique individuals on all the worlds. The events that happen are similar, but the peoples are all unique.

[Melichoir]

Of course that's it. That's the whole purpose of why people are asking for it.

Currently, you have to set up a private FC to be able to have a shared bank where you can transfer stuff between your alts, but that means having to forego the social purpose of an FC, since you can't be in more than one.

We'd like something like the FC chest but which is shared among our alts rather than among our FC-mates.

They wont give you this though. They would do it like MMOs that do give you 'shared banking'. In FFXIVs case, theyll just make it retainers are spread across all characters total, rather than retainers per character. This will result in less space per account, not more, which will cost people who use Alts for crafting much needed space. Especially since from a functional standpoint, having an alt will be a pretty moot outside of crafting and storage in 2 weeks with NG+

There's plenty stopping me from clearing Ultimate on an alt character right now: time, gear, and a team to name a few. Again, my character didn't do the work to kill Ultimate, I did.

Have I killed Ultimate on an alt? Yes. I would like, however, that at least some achievements be recognized account-wide.

No. Youre using meta-reasons why an alt that the game treats as a unique individual in world should have access to things. Short of Mogstation items in of themselves and a few exceptions, the game overwhelmingly treats every character as their own person, not an avatar of the player. As a point, youre not gonna have the "Ultimate Legend" title at level 15 and havent even done one dungeon yet. You may have worked the keyboard, but to the world your avatar inhabits, 'you' dont exist, they do. Pretty much think of htis like a DnD campaign. If you roll a character that gets accolades for an accomplishment, rerolling a new character for whatever reason in that campaign will not net you those accolades. Youll be treated as a brand new person.

From a business standpoint, you want that nice achievement on your alt, then grind and gear and work it out on your alt. Spend that time, as it's money in SEs pocket. They dont owe you access to achievements on alts. It's a convenience you want for purely personal reasoning. From a business standpoint, it would be a detriment to them to just hand over that feature to you.

[Mikki]

I've always just felt like they don't want you to have ults because 1) they feel it "defeats the purpose" of their job system and 2) FANTASIAS. If you could easily have a Viera ult, you may not change your main for example.

I could be entirely wrong but that's what I've always felt.

[NanaWiloh]

Woah hold right there!
You are asking for too much, game has PS4 limitations, it may explode if SE will implement all that stuff.

What she is asking for is all server side not client it wont effect the ps4.