Feeling punished for having alts...

[Mew_FC]

What? How does getting another service account solve the problems?

Your solution is paying $30 per month for two accounts?

Where in your mind did you actually think this is a good solution?

What is 30$ per month for entertainment?

[Wynn_Storm]

What is 30$ per month for entertainment?

Oh nevermind, i just realized who i was talking to.

Yeah not going to continue discussing further.

[LadyKairi]

I would love love more QoL for those of us who have alt’s.

I currently have two characters I use very regularly. Although I would love to get into rp, I leveled my alt for raiding purposes. I love raiding very very much! However, if I wanted to raid outside of the days my static meets, I would’ve been jeopardizing the weekly loot for my team. And if you want to get Raid gear for more than your “main” job, you are SoL thanks to the weekly lockouts. Then, you have the cap on tomestones, which makes it quite annoying to try and gear up more jobs in a timely manor. So because I wanted to keep doing what I love without screwing over my team and gear up more than one job at the same time, I resorted to having more than one character.

I’m also really big on aesthetics. I don’t like having the same look all the time, and frankly I don’t have the funds to keep spending money on fantasias. My main has a very Doma centered aesthetic. My alt is the spitting image of my original character I started playing this game as, so it means a lot to me. She has a more thavnaire theme to her. Not to mention having two characters gives me way more glamour plates to play with. And I have more access to different gear for my plates. My main has some healer gear, but the rest is for tank glam among other jobs. My alt is mainly focused on healer/aiming/quest/crafted gear. Then there is more retainers for extra space without having to spend extra every month on extra retainers. It can be a headache, but worth it.

I think we have pretty worthless things in this game, and I just don’t think QoL changes for those of us who use alts would be a detriment to the game. I would love to share my mounts, be able to share my house with my alt’s, be able to mail between my characters, among other things that have been suggested. Just my 2¢

[Mew_FC]

Oh nevermind, i just realized who i was talking to.

Yeah not going to continue discussing further.

How disappointing, it sucks when people can't even back their posts up.

[van_arn]

The game's systems mean alting is unpleasant to play by design. They want you to stick with one character, because they're proud of their systems that allow the entire game to be experienced on one.

While it's true other games have many of those other features, adding any of them would take away the impetus to stick to a single avatar-- which likely a factor in why they haven't been implemented at all.

I don't really care one way or the other, but it's pretty clear they believe so strongly in encouraging people to stick with one character that they'd go out of their way to discourage alts. That's not to say it's impossible to play alts, it's just uncomfortable for the reasons you've listed.

[manickitty]

The game's systems mean alting is unpleasant to play by design. They want you to stick with one character, because they're proud of their systems that allow the entire game to be experienced on one.

While it's true other games have many of those other features, adding any of them would take away the impetus to stick to a single avatar-- which likely a factor in why they haven't been implemented at all.

I don't really care one way or the other, but it's pretty clear they believe so strongly in encouraging people to stick with one character that they'd go out of their way to discourage alts. That's not to say it's impossible to play alts, it's just uncomfortable for the reasons you've listed.

And the thing is it's done so well that I never feel the need to have alts. I like Guild Wars 2, but I have 10 characters to manage there, and log in/out of, and inventories, etc. Here it's all taken care of, and is a big QoL upgrade IMO.

[Baka_Neko1]

are you mistaking punishment for a lack of reward?

[Solarra]

are you mistaking punishment for a lack of reward?

Well, I can't speak for the OP but in my case, no. To me the alts are their own reward. I get to experience the story again, I make a new backstory for each character, play another race and have the fun of making another set of glams. However I do feel hampered by the absence of some of the QoL issues people have raised in this thread. I can't friend my alts, can't transfer items between them easily and I cannot share housing with them. Considering that I pay extra to have them, I don't feel it is too much to ask for a few improvements.

A lot of posts in this thread saying - 'You don't need alts....'
I'm aware of that. I make them for fun and they keep me subbed when there is nothing I want to do on my main. It's almost like you guys want us to drop our subs here and go and play something else. I'd rather play FFXIV.

As to the argument that the devs only want us to have one character because that is their vision for the game - If that was the case, they would have:
a) Said this
b) Made having a single character the only option
Instead they have given us the choice, which makes sense as it allows different play-styles.

Arguing against people having alts is a distraction. If anyone feels really strongly about it, maybe make a thread on that topic and see if there is any support for taking away the option to make them.

All we are asking for are a few QoL changes to benefit those of us who chose to have them. If you choose not to make alts then this shouldn't impact you at all.

[MariaArvana]

Never understoond the appeal for alts in this game, I mean you can be every job on 1 character, whats the point otherwise?

Raiding is a huge one.

When the current raid tiers are on lockdown, you can only ever clear the raids once a week without punishing the loot of another group you may try to help due to the weekly systems they implement for the raid tiers. For example, if my BF only had a single character, our group would have had to either:

-Let him come and cause us to potentially lose a lot of loot depending on which chest the game axed as a result of the weekly limits
OR
-Have to go on a recruitment spree/find someone that may not be as good as my BF is to sub in and potentially hold us back for the night/not clear.

But he has multiple alts, meaning that while he can clear with his main group, he can also come help his friend's groups out while making sure they receive full loot whenever the raid tiers are under weekly lockout. That alt is pretty much the reason why we managed to clear Alphascape savage before the lockout was lifted.

That, and as he puts it "I'm not paying $10 every time I want to race change, I'll just make alts to play as them."

[Zelent]

There is no good reason to have an alt.
The reason I like this game so much is because all your alts technically exist on one character. Everything is already shared, story progress included.