The Healer Double Standard

[Deceptus]

All values below are per minute.

ASTRO
Stormblood:
Uses two combust 2 for a total of 1000 potency, twenty two malefic 3 for 4840 potency, and one earthly star for 720 potency, which gives a total of 6560 potency per minute.
Shadowbringers:
Uses two combust 3 for 1000 potency, twenty two malefic 4 for 5500 potency, and one earthly star for 720 potency, which gives a total potency of 7220 potency per minute.

You're missing multiple Lord of Crowns dumps and a Sleeve Draw. Not to mention Lightspeed and Switfcast.

All values below are per minute.

SCHOLAR
Stormblood:
Uses two bio 2 for 700 potency, three miasma for 760 potency, three energy drain for 450 potency, one shadowflare for 250 potency, and nineteen broil 2 for 4370 potency, for a total of 6530 potency per minute.
Shadowbringers:
Uses two biolysis for 1200 potency, and twenty two broil 3 for 6160 potency for a total of 7360 potency per minute.
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You're missing the fact that SCH Weaves 3 energy drains as part of opener, uses Aetherflow, Weaves 3 more, Dissipates, and weaves 3 more. 900 potency you're missing without accounting for Miasma II instant weaved with Energy Drain.

All values below are per minute.

WHITE MAGE
Stormblood:
Uses four aero 2 for 1200 potency, three aero 3 for 910 potency, seventeen stone 4 for 4250 potency, and one assize for 400 potency, for a total of 6760 potency per minute.
Shadowbringers:
Uses two dia for 1440 potency, twenty two glare for 6600 potency, and one assize for 400 potency for a total of 8440 potency per minute.
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Again, you're missing adding PoM into this rotation which bumps up the Stone count and total potency, as well as swift cast > stone.

In other words, your analysis is missing a TON of skillful play. Skillful play that separates veterans from more casual players. Skillful play that will largely be gone come ShadowBringers.

[Kabooa]

Again, you're missing adding PoM into this rotation which bumps up the Stone count and total potency, as well as swift cast > stone.

In other words, your analysis is missing a TON of skillful play. Skillful play that separates veterans from more casual players. Skillful play that will largely be gone come ShadowBringers.

Is the gap between casual and veteran for you really hitting one buff and spamming stone?

[Deceptus]

Is the gap between casual and veteran for you really hitting one buff and spamming stone?

Sadly from what I've seen while tanking and healing, yeah it is.

There are people who refuse to use AoE despite there being 8+ mobs grouped up. People who for some reason refuse to use Diversion at the start of the fight. Ninja's who have no idea how Shadewalker and Smokescreen work.

Was PoM removed? Doesn't really matter that I left it or swiftcast out, you are still gaining DPS this expansion. Even if you included those there is no way you are making up almost 2000 potency.

Your SCH write-up had a gap of ~800 and everything I suggested would more than make that up. Just an extra Aetherflow and 3 Energy Drains alone would surpass it and that's not even touching AoE damage.

[Bright-Flower]

Sadly from what I've seen while tanking and healing, yeah it is.

There are people who refuse to use AoE despite there being 8+ mobs grouped up. People who for some reason refuse to use Diversion at the start of the fight. Ninja's who have no idea how Shadewalker and Smokescreen work.



Your SCH write-up had a gap of ~800 and everything I suggested would more than make that up. Just an extra Aetherflow and 3 Energy Drains alone would surpass it and that's not even touching AoE damage.

People that don't aoe really baffle me, because aoe rotations are simler and easier than single target. I've gone through whole dungeons with blms not using fire 2 or never seeing the ninja drop a single doton or katon etc. Really makes me scratch my head. And sometimes they're also the impatient players. Said ninja that wasn't aoeing the whole dungeon goes and pulls the last boss of arboretum hard because I stopped for two seconds to type a question.

[Siccoroa]

You're missing multiple Lord of Crowns dumps and a Sleeve Draw. Not to mention Lightspeed and Switfcast.



You're missing the fact that SCH Weaves 3 energy drains as part of opener, uses Aetherflow, Weaves 3 more, Dissipates, and weaves 3 more. 900 potency you're missing without accounting for Miasma II instant weaved with Energy Drain.



Again, you're missing adding PoM into this rotation which bumps up the Stone count and total potency, as well as swift cast > stone.

In other words, your analysis is missing a TON of skillful play. Skillful play that separates veterans from more casual players. Skillful play that will largely be gone come ShadowBringers.

You are correct, I left out the additional aetherflows during the opener if you use all 9 stacks on energy drain(sounds unrealistic, but whatever) sb sch will do 70 more potency than shb sch. Shb sch still has a much higher potency per minute outside of opener situations however. Due to its low overall potency, using Miasma 2 even once during the openerwould result in shb sch having a higher potency opener. If you use two lord of crowns per minute(again sounds unrealistic) shb ast still does 60 more potency than sb ast.

I didn't factor in lightspeed, Pom, and swift, however due to the higher base potencies of shb skills factoring in these will result in a wider gap rather than a more narrow one as you are implying.

In shb healers base potency per minute will be roughly equivalent to peak potency per minute of sb healers.

[Siccoroa]

Again, you're missing adding PoM into this rotation which bumps up the Stone count and total potency, as well as swift cast > stone.

In other words, your analysis is missing a TON of skillful play. Skillful play that separates veterans from more casual players. Skillful play that will largely be gone come ShadowBringers.

Was PoM removed? Doesn't really matter that I left it or swiftcast out, you are still gaining DPS this expansion. Even if you included those there is no way you are making up almost 2000 potency.