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    Ayer2015's Avatar
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    Ayer Austen
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Switch to a role that's still at least mildly interesting and hope some sucker takes your old place?
    With trusts for 5.0 content, there is no longer a reason for me not to main a dps role, so that's what I'm going to do. If the queue time is over 15min I'll just run dungeons with AI, and come out ahead or on par had I waited.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayer2015 View Post
    With trusts for 5.0 content, there is no longer a reason for me not to main a dps role, so that's what I'm going to do. If the queue time is over 15min I'll just run dungeons with AI, and come out ahead or on par had I waited.
    Sadly, this is extremely accurate.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Nanashi Shinku
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    Sargatanas
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    The same shit you were doing before? If anything Sch is stronger now and even has an aoe.
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    Airget Lamh
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Haredin-Hunter View Post
    The same shit you were doing before? If anything Sch is stronger now and even has an aoe.
    Ya, I started looking at it myself, in all honesty, it feels like our DPS is actually stronger now, since you gotta consider the following.

    1 DOT compared to 2, but that 1 DOT is now only 130 potency weaker overall compared to applying those 2 dots but if you add the new Broil III into the mix it's now 150 stronger since you can just do Biolysis + Broil III rather than Bio, Miasma, Broil.

    Miasma II being replaced by Art of War is an overall stronger AOE for SCH since Miasma II was a 100 potency 25/tick DoT for 12 secs but if you wanted that AOE you would need to keep spamming Miasma II so you'd either be doing 100 or 125 damage, now you're doing a constant 150.

    Bane being completely removed isn't an issue either, they gutted that ability back in 4.0, 20%, 40%, 60%, 80%, 35/35 as base, then 28, 21, 14, 7 and in all honesty in those instances you can probably remove a tick from each instance sine there was a delay in being able to execute it, so in a best case scenario you are getting 9 ticks on Bio and 7 on Miasma, that puts you are 448, 336, 224 and 112 potency worth of damage on each target, it's honestly not that impressive for 24-30 seconds.

    If we think of it like this, Bane removed, Shadowflare removed, Miasma removed, that's 3 more opportunities to cast Biolysis instead, so now you have a total of 4 targets you can rotate through before going to art of war if that's how you choose to attack the mob. either do 150X 4 to hit all targets for 600 dmg or you apply the 600 potency every 30 seconds on 4 targets but also using 400 less MP in the process per cast.

    Overall the damage rotation is refined, while you might not have as much as before to weave through, the overall damage potential should still be there, at least in the case of a SCH they have the luxury of shields and their pet backup to help them DPS more compared to their other counterparts, in all truth though, until people actually get their hands on the job we can't assume how much has gotten gutted. I"m honestly looking forward to trying out SCH.
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