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    Player Yuyuka3's Avatar
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    Kyara Moonbane
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 100
    The same thing the other two healers did since, let's see, forever.
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    Valmaxian's Avatar
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    Jase Shepard
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    Malboro
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Just my two cents:

    1. Give Bane and Miasma back.
    2. Biolysis should apply Bio II and miasma to the target, and also something akin to SMN ruin vulnerability, only for Broil.
    3. AoW should be cheaper, targeted, and with a more “scholarly” animation - frankly it looks like an afterthought.

    ...and those are bare minimums in my opinion. While I appreciate the shiny new healing tools, Scholars have learned to play their class a certain way, one which favors a DPS-centered playstyle. The ShB version breaks something that didn’t need to be fixed.
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    Ramziez's Avatar
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    Xida Mhasi
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Scholar main here, I have to say I'm super glad I have a friend who mains white mage. Gives me a reason to go and play something that isn't being gutted of all of its uniqueness. 5.0 dancer main here I come!
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    Sanctify's Avatar
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    Sanctify Ofera
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Botanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Yulja View Post
    even the pet management is gone.
    Really? I might actually get into playing SCH at some point if this is the case never was fond of the idea of micromanaging a pet.
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    KarnSalander's Avatar
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    Karn Salander
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanctify View Post
    Really? I might actually get into playing SCH at some point if this is the case never was fond of the idea of micromanaging a pet.
    You bring joy to my heart. Almost a week after the job changes preview, you are the first message I see of someone who is not a healer at the moment that is considering trying it.

    One point I've been trying to express on multiple platforms is that even if the changes play-and-feel good when Shadowbringers release, there is little to no "hype" for the healer roles prior to the expansion. This by itself is a failure of SE.

    I've bought my copy of ShB. I'll play it. I'll even probably continue healing it. But I cannot say I'm excited for the expansion.
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    Brunox Sky
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    Exodus
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    Scholar Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by KarnSalander View Post
    I've bought my copy of ShB. I'll play it. I'll even probably continue healing it. But I cannot say I'm excited for the expansion.
    No offense, but such blind-faith support and attitudes like this are the reason WHY they don't care about healers. If SE knows we'll take it, then this is what they're going to keep doing to our jobs every chance they get.
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    Yesunova Hotgo
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    Balmung
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanctify View Post
    Really? I might actually get into playing SCH at some point if this is the case never was fond of the idea of micromanaging a pet.
    At current, it is not mandatory to do so, the AI isn’t terrible for faeries and I know people who choose to not micromanage the pet. I see no issue somebody playing Scholar like this and it’s optional.

    However, it will affect players like myself who enjoy that aspect.
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    Sanctify Ofera
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    Lamia
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    Botanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by KarnSalander View Post
    You bring joy to my heart. Almost a week after the job changes preview, you are the first message I see of someone who is not a healer at the moment that is considering trying it.

    One point I've been trying to express on multiple platforms is that even if the changes play-and-feel good when Shadowbringers release, there is little to no "hype" for the healer roles prior to the expansion. This by itself is a failure of SE.

    I've bought my copy of ShB. I'll play it. I'll even probably continue healing it. But I cannot say I'm excited for the expansion.
    Aww thx Haha yeah I'm a PLD main (sucker for the whole holy warrior jive) have been since HW. But I always keep at least one of every role maxed and my healer role has always been WHM simply because they don't have to shuffle cards around or manage a pet :3 if sch pet is gonna be fully independent, that speaks my interest considerably!
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    tinythinker's Avatar
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    Omi Senu
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanctify View Post
    Aww thx Haha yeah I'm a PLD main (sucker for the whole holy warrior jive) have been since HW. But I always keep at least one of every role maxed and my healer role has always been WHM simply because they don't have to shuffle cards around or manage a pet :3 if sch pet is gonna be fully independent, that speaks my interest considerably!
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    Thanks for helping make the FFXIV community a fun and welcoming place. If you're not sure you have (and you very likely have), make it a point to be patient or helpful the next time you log in so that you can know you've made a difference.

    If you're on the Aether data center, congratulations! I might be your next exciting adventure healer in the Duty Finder. Please look forward to it.

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    NobleWinter's Avatar
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    Character
    Winter Gem
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    It seems like it's time for Sacred Soil to shine. It was probably one of the least used parts of the toolkit for many Scholars including myself but now that we don't have energy drain and still want to avoid over healing it will definitely be the safe option in the lower level content before the Regen Trait kicks in. The fact it always had a chance to grant a MP free Succor made it seem like the devs thought we would be using it more and now we are kind of forced to if we want to dump stacks. I think the only way to truly cement it as part of the Scholars arsenal though is to give the mp gain we lost in Energy Drain to Sacred Soil. Getting that refresh would definitely make it a core part of our gameplay.
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    Last edited by NobleWinter; 06-04-2019 at 01:24 PM.

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