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    ThaliaEmphas's Avatar
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    Thalia Emphas
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    Cerberus
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    White Mage Lv 70

    What does sch do now with no dps options

    So with healing dps being changed I'm very concerned about the raid scene.

    With a prepull spread adlo. And eos heals there will be a period of time for gcds that are not healing before is required. Withthe changes all they can do is spam the 1 keywhich just seems dull.

    If paired with Whm or ast the firstraid wide and autos will be mitigated by the shield then healed up by an aszie or earthy star. Leaving the sch to spam the 1 key

    So how many gcds of spamming the 1 key will be required before they need to do something else 9/10? How many times do we spam the same key before it gets boring

    In addition the reward for getting better isn't a more optimised rotation but more time spamming the 1 key... So why bother to get better

    Not saying sch is completely ruined it just looks dull to play now. They look to have amazing ogd heals when they are needed but what are they expected to we've them between. And why should they bother when there is no reward for playing better?

    I've never played another mmo so can't compare but how do they reward healers for playing well... Do they just stand around doing nothing?
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    Gunther Frey
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Ruin II- it'll have 200 potency with the trait that upgrades Broil II to III. So at the cost of 60 (if a smn's Ruination buff is on the target.) Or 80 potency (if no Ruination) you can weave your ogcds on that.

    Or if you're MLG pro you can just single weave by clipping Broil III, but doing that to much will make you lose cast times.

    On fights with more then one target, you can also weave on Art of War as its potency is higher then Broil II's after the first enemy.

    It's honestly not really as bad as people are saying it is...
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    Edda Eglantine
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    Botanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ThaliaEmphas View Post
    What does sch do now with no dps options
    Continue to be the best healer in the game but be bored to tears while doing so.

    In a fast-paced, damage-heavy game, 'not dying' would be its own reward. Neither of those things describe FFXIV though, so I guess... maybe SCH can solo heal most if not all 8-mans now? I honestly wouldn't be surprised.
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    Kyara Moonbane
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I thought Adlo cannot be spread anymore? Did I misread anything?
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuyuka3 View Post
    I thought Adlo cannot be spread anymore? Did I misread anything?
    Only Critlo.
    Critical Adlo now is named Catalyze while current effect is Galvanize. We'll only be able to spread Galvanize
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    Brunox Sky
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    Exodus
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    Scholar Lv 82
    Play a DPS and avoid the class until they fix it; these changes are unacceptable to me and I refuse to support the 5.0 vision of SCH they've rolled out. Sure, the healing kit is pretty good, but everything else I liked about the class has been gutted. Yuck.
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    Tonberry
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    Summoner Lv 70
    square has secretly introduced a upper class for SCH. Netflix healer, they think healers are undesirably engaging so want us to chill
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    Awashio Sazanami
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    Bard Lv 100
    I feel plenty involved when i aoe everything down as healers and try to hit as many stones/Malefic/Broils as possible before a mechanic happens.

    And try to do so as soon as possible after a mechanic as i can.

    If you want a complex rotation, which, let's face it, sch never even had, no matter how hard you try to make it out to be, then play dps? Not even being mean here, it's just a thing.
    If you want to say sch has a complex rotation, what about any other class that have to position themself, hit procs, hit timewindows with buffs, try to manage their recources? Wow managing dots is so much fun if you do them, do 3 broils and they fall off again so you do it again to broil again.

    Also as your answer: You dps
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    Edda Eglantine
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    Balmung
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    Botanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by IanR View Post
    square has secretly introduced a upper class for SCH. Netflix healer, they think healers are undesirably engaging so want us to chill
    New Healer Role Skill:

    Netflix and Chill
    Spell
    Range/Radius: Infinite
    Cast: Instant
    Recast: Whenever You Want
    MP Cost: 0
    Activated by auto-following any chosen party member. While active, you emit a healing over time effect that restores each party member's HP to full, regardless of distance. This effect is de-activated when you return to your keyboard.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheremia View Post
    I feel plenty involved when i aoe everything down as healers and try to hit as many stones/Malefic/Broils as possible before a mechanic happens.

    And try to do so as soon as possible after a mechanic as i can.

    If you want a complex rotation, which, let's face it, sch never even had, no matter how hard you try to make it out to be, then play dps? Not even being mean here, it's just a thing.
    If you want to say sch has a complex rotation, what about any other class that have to position themself, hit procs, hit timewindows with buffs, try to manage their recources? Wow managing dots is so much fun if you do them, do 3 broils and they fall off again so you do it again to broil again.

    Also as your answer: You dps
    Unless you main RDM or BLM and their playstyle is relatively forgiving.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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