Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[SturmChurro]

Seems to me you're describing female Viera when you say things like "I want a pretty face, if it’s a bit beast like at least make him attractive/hot. I want some hair options to be majestic and long. I do want heels for at least some outfits."
Here friend, download the benchmark, it lets you make exactly what you described https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/bench...n=na_benchmark

Female Viera are taller or almost as tall as male Highlander, the males will obviously be taller than them. The LAST thing we need is for male Viera to be pushed back to 6.0 and added with gender demorphism like they did with Au ra.

Looks like everyone has what they want!

A while back I was in two minds whether I wanted to carry on with my online life and walking through a book shop (yes, yes these exist too) I looked in the computing section and saw a book called 'Online gaming for Dummies' I must of spent 2 hours in said bookshop just browsing through this book, It was an absolute eye opener.

I am sure there are some around somewhere on the internet, it helped me a hell of a lot and maybe you too!

You should try second life. You can be anything you want in that!

[jake200135]

Oh so you meant facial options, a few manly and a few "young" faces for male races is a standard already. Yes, that's a good solution for those wanting a young/baby face option and for those wanting a manly face.

Yes,as far as height/body mass, they would have to either be like male Elezen/Au ra or stronger, anything below that is crossing into comedy. Because nothing's more comical than delicate bishounen men having to protect an entire nation by themselves. Specially considering how curvy female Viera already are, if your females have curves by extension you won't look like a stick either.

Before we go in circles too much, which happens a lot here, the dev art speaks for itself. They won't be short, skinny, dainty, baby face jungle warriors (a young face or two is fine but it needs to be based on the Viera face proportions, strong jaw-strong nose type).

Yeah, the bishi thing isn't really my cup of tea. I want a male looking body type as long as it doesn't veer too far into the hyper masculine (roe/hroth). I just want a young face so I can slap all that fem stuff I like all over it. The body is just a canvas. lol

Side note: I actually saw some Hrothgar Dancer game play today, and I was actually kind of stunned by how graceful he was.

[Mugear_bahamut]

I am not really sure why someone being a fierce protector of the forest (which seems to be only in the english translation?) means that they have to be huge and really muscled men? Look at top pretadors in the jungle, a lot of them are lean and not bulky at all because if you are huge and bulky you may not be able to be stealthly. In the end what we know is, that they are not seen and kill you before you notice them. This could easily be someone large but still lean because they just need to be quick and silent to kill from the shadows.

Of course you could argue that this is a fantasy game thus they can also be silent as big muscled men..sure, that is true, but you can also use the same argument and say that they can be large and lean and be fierce protectors of the forest. Nothing in the lore should dictate their look since they are not seen anyway thus could be whatever SE wants them to be. (The only thing we know is that the children look the same until a certain age)

In the end I would not rage or anything if they happen to be that way some want them to be, because I would just be happy that they are in the game but in my opinion we already have three huge and muscles races (Roe, Hrothgar, Au Ra) and only Elezen as the large but slightly lean option. So for me this would fit just better in that part. But again just my opinion!

Moreover real amazonian hunters look like this:



Rather than Conan the Barbarian(see below). These people who say they should be tall and body-builder crazy muscular are not really convincing.

[Senn]

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You were the one who posted Matsuno/minafumi's tweet, right? Has Matsuno said anything else about the design since then?

[zeylos]

Thank you! I've been following this thread for a while and it feels highjacked.
Look, the devs already have a concept, instead of deviating from that we should respect their vision



Which is not bishounen men in high heels

PS. Notice how they have strong jaws and strong features, a staple to Viera. Not small baby-face jaws like male Miqo'te.

Honestly I'd love if male viera look like the concept art. The only thing is that I hope that their animations are elegant like the females, specially I really hope they get a running animations that's just as fluid and elegant as them

[LittleChickenNugget]

Moreover real amazonian hunters look like this:



Rather than Conan the Barbarian(see below). These people who say they should be tall and body-builder crazy muscular are not really convincing.

That top one is the exact body type I expect mViera to have now.

Also sorry but what does the LGTBQ agenda have to do with being femenine?

Not many straight men are rallying around for male Viera to have twink bodies, long flowing hair, skimpy clothes, and high heels I'm afraid.

[Halivel]

have three huge and muscles races (Roe, Hrothgar, Au Ra)

technically 4, since Higlanders are 200cm and quite bulky too.

And yeah, if we actually look at people who live in jungles, they are very far from being "manpower dream". Yes, they have quite solid muscles, but they aren't big or bulky. They are, actually, look more like male Miqo'tes.

[zeylos]

But why hijack the Viera race specifically to do that? That's wrong in every way.
If the LGBTQ agenda is that important to you request that for every race.

I also have feelings, I want my character to represent me as a very masculine man. The same sympathy or understanding that people have for the LGBTQ appearance I would like to have that same sympathy and understanding.
The biggest difference is I'm following the lore and the look the devs already created for them; the other side seems to forgo any kind of lore and art to make an entire race represent LGBTQ.

I've been waiting for the Viera race (both genders) to be added for over 5 years and I wanted it to look as manly as I am.
Clothing/make up (things you add to yourself) like in real life, is what defines your gender identity, not how skinny/short you are.

PS. Female Viera are misunderstood as elegant. They're not elegant anything, they're amazonian warriors with grace.
Elegance is something you assign to Elezen

Also sorry but what does the LGTBQ agenda have to do with being femenine?

[Mugear_bahamut]

That top one is the exact body type I expect mViera to have now.

Well not everyone agrees with you, and some do. It is a fantasy-based game after all, and nothing is a "must".
Lalafell wield giant axes too, anything is possible.

[SturmChurro]

Male Viera lie in wait for lalafell prey.



My own artwork you can use it freely.