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    Liokki Rehw-setlas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    But why hijack the Viera race specifically to do that? That's wrong in every way.
    If the LGBTQ agenda is that important to you request that for every race.

    I also have feelings, I want my character to represent me as a very masculine man. The same sympathy or understanding that people have for the LGBTQ appearance I would like to have that same sympathy and understanding.

    I've been waiting for the Viera race (both genders) to be added for over 5 years and I wanted it to look as manly as I am.
    Clothing/make up (things you add to yourself) like in real life, is what defines your gender identity, not how skinny/short you are.

    PS. Female Viera are misunderstood as elegant. They're not elegant anything, they're amazonian warriors with grace.
    Elegance is something you assign to Elezen
    I think you're misunderstanding me. I'm not talking about body options here. I'm talking about face and hair options. But that's my fault, I wasn't very clear with that point. If they give us face options that are graceful and face options that are manly, I'd be satisfied. I'm not in any way saying they should exclude manly options, I'm saying they shouldn't add exclusively manly options.

    As for body type, I'm ok with them being muscular actually. Just don't make them Roegadyn or Hrothgar size, because that wouldn't fit Viera in my opinion. I actually kind of picture them having a form similar to Highlander or Au Ra.

    PS: I still can never look at a female Viera and think Amazonian warrior. To me, they seem the exact definition of dainty, but I mean, it suits them at least. :/

    PSS: I also don't understand this us vs them mentality so many of you have adopted. mViera could very easily be added in a way that those wanting graceful/elegant appearance and those wanting rugged/manly appearance could be satisfied. It really doesn't have to be one or the other at all. Demanding SE to give us options for just one and not the other is just so counterproductive.
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    Last edited by jake200135; 05-30-2019 at 04:27 PM.

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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by jake200135 View Post
    I actually kind of picture them having a form similar to Highlander or Au Ra.
    That would be the sweet spot for me.
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    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by jake200135 View Post
    I think you're misunderstanding me. I'm not talking about body options here. I'm talking about face and hair options. But that's my fault, I wasn't very clear with that point. If they give us face options that are graceful and face options that are manly, I'd be satisfied. I'm not in any way saying they should exclude manly options, I'm saying they shouldn't add exclusively manly options.

    As for body type, I'm ok with them being muscular actually. Just don't make them Roegadyn or Hrothgar size, because that wouldn't fit Viera in my opinion. I actually kind of picture them having a form similar to Highlander or Au Ra.

    PS: I still can never look at a female Viera and think Amazonian warrior. To me, they seem the exact definition of dainty, but I mean, it suits them at least. :/
    Oh so you meant facial options, a few manly and a few "young" faces for male races is a standard already. Yes, that's a good solution for those wanting a young/baby face option and for those wanting a manly face.

    Yes,as far as height/body mass, they would have to either be like male Elezen/Au ra or stronger, anything below that is crossing into comedy. Because nothing's more comical than delicate bishounen men having to protect an entire nation by themselves. Specially considering how curvy female Viera already are, if your females have curves by extension you won't look like a stick either.

    Before we go in circles too much, which happens a lot here, the dev art speaks for itself. They won't be short, skinny, dainty, baby face jungle warriors (a young face or two is fine but it needs to be based on the Viera face proportions, strong jaw-strong nose type).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    Oh so you meant facial options, a few manly and a few "young" faces for male races is a standard already. Yes, that's a good solution for those wanting a young/baby face option and for those wanting a manly face.

    Yes,as far as height/body mass, they would have to either be like male Elezen/Au ra or stronger, anything below that is crossing into comedy. Because nothing's more comical than delicate bishounen men having to protect an entire nation by themselves. Specially considering how curvy female Viera already are, if your females have curves by extension you won't look like a stick either.

    Before we go in circles too much, which happens a lot here, the dev art speaks for itself. They won't be short, skinny, dainty, baby face jungle warriors (a young face or two is fine but it needs to be based on the Viera face proportions, strong jaw-strong nose type).
    Yeah, the bishi thing isn't really my cup of tea. I want a male looking body type as long as it doesn't veer too far into the hyper masculine (roe/hroth). I just want a young face so I can slap all that fem stuff I like all over it. The body is just a canvas. lol

    Side note: I actually saw some Hrothgar Dancer game play today, and I was actually kind of stunned by how graceful he was.
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