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Thread: Healers in 5.0

  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
    why you all act like you played the expansion and the new stuff when you haven't?

    like its not even out yet and you guys are acting as if you played it and you are disappointed lol what??

    I see this every expansion overreactions then change of heart afterwards.
    Actually a lot of people has issues with certain classes in the beginning of SB that people like you came in here saying, "It's not even out yet, relax."
    And those things still transferred over into launch and remained that way until people finally complained about it enough. Some things only just NOW got fixed for this expansion.

    So lets not act like SE usually pulls amazing feats of turn arounds from what they show us until the time they implement them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
    why you all act like you played the expansion and the new stuff when you haven't?

    like its not even out yet and you guys are acting as if you played it and you are disappointed lol what??

    I see this every expansion overreactions then change of heart afterwards.
    I remember the complaints pre-4.0 from healers on the forums were spot on. I recall because I was saying what you are now, then.
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    I didn't mind, in fact I was glad when SCH lost those stupid cross skill actions back at the start of SB. I always thought that Aero and Blizzard II spamming made no sense and didn't care for them at all. Now they're losing Miasma I and II (again, which is sort of funny) and all I'm feeling is...meh. It's not like it's as much of a step down that some people are making it out to be. Losing the second DoT made Bane almost completely unnecessary, so I understand that reasoning. The one thing I'll actually miss is Energy Drain. A neat way to burn some stacks of aetherflow and mana regain. Maybe energy drain can be this expansion's Miasma II? Where's the petition at for that?

    I'll probably still use SCH as my go-to healer (especially if it's still tied to SMN or did that change?) and I'll see how I take to it. So far, I haven't seen any healer change that I see as a deal-breaker, and I have all three of them currently at 70 and have enjoyed my time with them from HW to SB. If I end up not liking this direction... that's a pity. I'll move on. I'm not going to wail about it though.
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
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    They may as well delete healers at this point. Their utility has been shafted (If they even have any at all, looking at you WHM), their damage is borderline ineffective now, and healing is just a matter of "Oh, tankbuster went out, time to press my one button. Oh an AoE attack went out, time to press the other button."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    I'd be willing to bet that there will be very little "AFK"ing with the damage being done to players being increased. But that itself remains to be seen.
    From what I know from recent discussions, the reports of "enemy damage increase" were greatly exaggerated. It's roughly the same damage scaling as if you're running Sohm Al or Shisui at their respective expansion launch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilseph View Post
    From what I know from recent discussions, the reports of "enemy damage increase" were greatly exaggerated. It's roughly the same damage scaling as if you're running Sohm Al or Shisui at their respective expansion launch.
    So basically difficult healing because the tank is bad and doesn't know what cooldowns are? Sounds about right.
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    They ruined my job. Astrologians cards went from fun to boring and almost all the same. They killed what made me love Astrologian, and now I dont know how I will adjust. I was so attached to it. I still am.
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    As an AST main, this hurts. Some are fine with it because the cards are now going to be more reliable but honstly that just sucks the fun out of it. Going from cards that could work in just about every situation to just damage buffs is just boring. They just took the most entertaining part of the class and oversimplified it to the point it's just..meh.
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    Zedek Kusakabe
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    I really don't understand that. Yesterday I was trying to do some quests as Scholar (as I spent my last month almost exclusively on training my Red Mage abilities) and it was absolutely terrible and boring already! I was using energy drain to use up my aether and else was just hitting CTRL-2 to the point I heard the "Not ready yet" soundeffect 5 times before I could do something. And that was a Level 50 Heavensward quest, one of it. I switched to Red Mage and the game became fun. How is that supposed to work in future?

    Not reading into the full changes yet, but what I hear from different sources is matching up to a puzzle of crap. Man, I even heard that I can not move my fairy anymore or something? When such bullocks reach my pointy ears it gives me the shivers. I really have to wait until it arrives, but it sounds so shitty already.


    Sincerely,


    Quitted GW2 because of the constant "changes" a.k.a. nerfs of my beloved Deadeye just to find me in the same position now here . . .
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  10. #90
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    Lhei Amariyo
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    Personally, while I have mixed feelings about some changes (mainly in SCH dps and aetherstack dump department) the changes left a generally good impression on me.

    Still wont main or MSQ as a healer (had enough of that in HW), but I'll still queue as one in casual content if the queues favor it.
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