Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
Ultimately, that's your line to draw.

There's a point in the sand where, if Square were to action you, you'd shrug at them and say "so what?"

Because if they'd action you for what you felt was necessary to enjoy the game, they no longer provide a game you'd care to play.

In my own case, I kick tanks that refuse to pick up adds whether a dps pulled them or not. And I don't care if Square leaps to their defense. So what.

I've only needed to do it a handful of times over the time I've played, but the vote always succeeds (remember, the dps tanked for the tank so I get a free yes vote on the kick) and a GM *never* comes calling.

I'd simply say the tank refused to tank, so I got rid of them with my party. The GM cannot object without destroying my confidence in the leadership of the game.
Well i tank often and when i do i set the pace i pull at. Which usually is wall to wall but sometimes i pull smaller. What I absolutely dont want is dps pulling for me. Usually i just let them keep the mobs in those cases.
With big groups its not allways easy to even see which ones you dont have agro on if they arent on your agro list due to being pulled by someone else.
Also the one who pulls gets a lead on the agro table so you are making life a whole lot more difficult for the tank.
If you want to kick me as tank then fine i'll prop be in a new party before you get your replacement.
Know that i intend to go into shadowbringers as main warrior.