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    Player BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY's Avatar
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    i'm not mad about this. and people who are doing this aren't just having an impact on those 23 people. and while it may seem uncommon for people to do this to the roulette, there are like 3 people in this very thread that have admitted to committing this manipulation. which shows that it really isn't too uncommon for people to do it. this behavior should be addressed.

    picture this...

    even in the more populated data centers, if playing at certain times, it can take up to and over 30minutes to queue a specific Alliance Raid. hell, sometimes even 50+ minutes. i am sure there are those who can mostly only play during hours when most others aren't. should they be unfortunate enough to play during the same hours as some roulette manipulator, ( assuming they are trying to queue for a specific Alliance Raid that is The World of Darkness or after ) this will most likely have an adverse effect on them. they could potentially wait for hours and not get in the Alliance Raid they want, and all because someone is manipulating the roulette and stealing away 23 other people from that person.

    while this scenario is far less likely to be as common as people actually manipulating the roulette in the first place... why are we so opposed to trying to prevent such a behavior that could have an adverse effect on other players? that just doesn't make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY View Post
    i'm not mad about this. and people who are doing this aren't just having an impact on those 23 people. and while it may seem uncommon for people to do this to the roulette, there are like 3 people in this very thread that have admitted to committing this manipulation. which shows that it really isn't too uncommon for people to do it. this behavior should be addressed.

    picture this...

    even in the more populated data centers, if playing at certain times, it can take up to and over 30minutes to queue a specific Alliance Raid. hell, sometimes even 50+ minutes. i am sure there are those who can mostly only play during hours when most others aren't. should they be unfortunate enough to play during the same hours as some roulette manipulator, ( assuming they are trying to queue for a specific Alliance Raid that is The World of Darkness or after ) this will most likely have an adverse effect on them. they could potentially wait for hours and not get in the Alliance Raid they want, and all because someone is manipulating the roulette and stealing away 23 other people from that person.

    while this scenario is far less likely to be as common as people actually manipulating the roulette in the first place... why are we so opposed to trying to prevent such a behavior that could have an adverse effect on other players? that just doesn't make sense.
    Because at the end of the day, there's always going to be a queue for people specifically for those people who want to get into an alliance they want. It's that simple. Not everyone's going to manipulate their ilvls before they queue for roulette and the queue will just continue to rack up the eligible people just for the person who's trying to enter a specific duty. If someone's playing in the wee hours of the night on a busy weekday, they have the PF option to try and hasten the process but even then, the queue system in itself can't solve everyone's time problems and the ilvl manipulation isn't as so common to be a huge part of those porblems just because 3 people in a forum of all places admitted to it.

    Besides, unless you can literally prove someone's actually manipulating their ilvl without that person giving themselves away, this is moot. I could just as easily strip myself of all my current gear, get myself the minimum ilvl gear needed for a specific group of roulette (say the lvl 60 alliance raids) and there's no system that could force my character to wear the higher ilvl gear in my inventory. And if such a system did exist, you'd be certain there would be a far greater uproar about that then this problem you're bringing up.
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    Last edited by SenorPatty; 04-14-2019 at 05:34 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Player BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY's Avatar
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    it still doesn't seem right to just simply ignore the behavior. regardless of how low the potential is, there is always that possibility people are going to be adversely impacted by someone who would manipulate the roulette outcome.



    it seems like it should be a simple fix, but again, i don't know how much server resource it could cost.

    it would just be something like your highest achieved AIL for each job equipped will be recorded. and, when having that job equipped, you are forced to meet that AIL to queue in the roulette. now... it doesn't really need to record the exact number, and can just set stages. even if it does record the exact number, there could be some room for wiggle. this way anyone willing sacrifice a small amount of AIL to trade a piece of gear for something that is best-in-slot for the stat they want to stack won't have to worry about that.
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