Alliance Raid Roulette Dynamic AIL Enforcement? Yes, please!

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This is a thread OP lol. If you feel like the roulette is being manipulated and as such you can't do relevant content then just queue for what you want. The main purpose of the roulette is to help new people get through old content and rewards a ton of xp. I mean if I want a token from Ridorana wtf would I use the roulette? I wont get any xp and barely any tomes to make rolling that dice worth it. If you think using the Roulette will save you time that's just silly. Queue for the 3 raids you need get your tokens and be done.

i know we don't use roulette to get SPECIFIC content, and know what roulette is used for. but it doesn't change the fact that people are manipulating the system. what about if people want to queue something like The World of Darkness, or something later on? anyone manipulating the roulette to dwindle the possibility down to only 2 possible outcomes is taking away up to 23 other people for that person to be matched with.

I do shit like this all the time if I don't feel like doing certain content, who are you to tell me I should have to run it? Maybe I'm a returning player trying to brush up on my skills and don't want to run the hardest alliance raid? If you want to run the hardest content, que directly for it.

i am not telling you should have to run it, roulette is... if you don't like the possibility of getting content you don't like, either... A.) don't use roulette or B.) drop out and eat your 30minute penalty, plenty of people do this one. what makes you the exception that you should manipulate the outcome of a roulette for up to 23 other players? who you are to decide what roulette should or should not include? to purposely manipulate the roulette results to your own ends is wrong.

personally, i don't mind getting lower-level content in my roulette, even if still needing a weekly grab from something more relevant. but i DO mind that possibility of getting a more relevant instance potentially being stolen away.

people who are manipulating the results of roulette are defeating the purpose of roulette. they are manipulating the results to their own ends. no matter how you look at it, it is a selfish thing to do and has an impact on others.

Just queue for the raid you want to do. No, seriously. Full stop! If you want gear from a raid, do that raid. No, there is nothing else. I don't care about how often something might pop up or anything. Go do the raid if you want that gear. FULL STOP. Other people abusing the system won't affect you and doesn't even matter.

it isn't about wanting to get a specific raid from the roulette. it is about at least having the CHANCE to get that raid, which is potentially taken away when people start dropping their gear to manipulate the results.

You are claiming people are stripping down once the queue pops. That would do nothing. They would have to remove their gear before they queued for it to have any effect. Are you psychic? Do you know what people are planning to queue for anytime they change gear?



So you are queueing with a premade? Why not speak up and tell the leader that someone in the group has changed gear to get something different than what the group agreed on rather than claiming people are breaking the rules. What you are now claiming is even *less* of an issue than I originally thought. You have complete agency in this situation. Don't like people in your group doing that? Leave the group.

i did speak in party chat about it. a couple people agreed that it wasn't proper, but the leader was unwilling to kick the manipulator. of course, i left the group. but that doesn't eliminate the possibility someone is manipulating the roulette just as that player was. i certainly didn't queue up right away, and waited til later. but the potential that there are people in the pool doing this is still there.


either way, roulette is a game of chance and people shouldn't be manipulating the odds.

Yes, yes, there are people doing that - but they don't influence which raid you end up in nearly as much as you seem to imagine they do.
In short, what you are complaining about is not an actual problem for anyone - including you.

your statement is both true and false. no matter how uncommon it might be, the fact remains that there ARE people dropping gear to do this to the roulette. no matter which way you slice it, it is has an impact on up to 23 other people.

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it isn't about wanting to get a specific raid from the roulette. it is about at least having the CHANCE to get that raid, which is potentially taken away when people start dropping their gear to manipulate the results.

You do have a chance for the other stuff. But right now people are going hard on the first 24 man because of the upcoming expansion. That's why you are getting it so often. There's always a chance to get the others. If you don't want the loot from the others, why do you care which one you get? Stop depending on a chance to get something and actually go for what you want. Don't depend on RNG when you don't have to. Get over it.