Add ilv requirement please in ShB[Dev Request]

[Ekimmak]

Honestly, I don't know why people would queue into the likes of The Vault to grind up experience, Adventurer Squadrons do it faster and for a much higher Experience Yield.

With Squadmates, I've beaten The Vault in augmented ironworks (plus a Sohm Ahl ring) enough times to get the full set in hopes of levelling alts to 60. That first run will always be scary because of Holy Shield Bash, but as long as you do stuff right (and the AI behaves on the final boss), it's plausible.


... now, all that said. I have no problem with an iLevel requirement, as long as it isn't so harsh that it makes it impossible to keep up.

[HyoMinPark]

Honestly, I don't know why people would queue into the likes of The Vault to grind up experience, Adventurer Squadrons do it faster and for a much higher Experience Yield.

People that probably don’t know about Squadrons, don’t have them leveled high enough to do The Vault with them, or don’t care to utilize them. Personally, I would rather queue into the dungeons directly over using a Squadron—but I would never do so blatantly undergeared.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Honestly, I don't know why people would queue into the likes of The Vault to grind up experience, Adventurer Squadrons do it faster and for a much higher Experience Yield.

With Squadmates, I've beaten The Vault in augmented ironworks (plus a Sohm Ahl ring) enough times to get the full set in hopes of levelling alts to 60. That first run will always be scary because of Holy Shield Bash, but as long as you do stuff right (and the AI behaves on the final boss), it's plausible.


... now, all that said. I have no problem with an iLevel requirement, as long as it isn't so harsh that it makes it impossible to keep up.

Squadrons didn't exist when I leveled to 60. HoH didnt exist when I leveled to 70, potd didn't exist when I leveled to 50.

[Ekimmak]

People that probably don’t know about Squadrons, don’t have them leveled high enough to do The Vault with them, or don’t care to utilize them. Personally, I would rather queue into the dungeons directly over using a Squadron—but I would never do so blatantly undergeared.

Alright, fair. It's a big time investment, but it does pay off. I just wish it wasn't *such* a time investment, then they wouldn't need to bring us the Trust system to do what's already there. ... I still don't know why people who *could* do it wouldn't, since it has a higher exp yield and kill speed. You don't mass pull in levelling dungeons.

Squadrons didn't exist when I leveled to 60. HoH didnt exist when I leveled to 70, potd didn't exist when I leveled to 50.

Also a fair point. I only genuinely started chasing levelling alts when those were brought in. It's a lot easier when you don't have to balance everything at a pre-endgame level.

I'm going to happily queue into The Vault with my Squadron as soon as they're levelled enough to do so. Raising my PLD & WAR there was a truly miserable experience. I'm still not confident in my tanking abilities yet, so I'm sure I have lots of room to improve, but I have the worst luck in that place with the parties I get. So many undergeared players and bad attitudes all around.

The Vault is a mildly annoying AS dungeon without being actually terrible (Brayflox Longstop Hard is a good example of where adventurer squadrons fall apart). The ambushes will only ever be triggered by you, so if you aren't the tank, you'll have a lot of problems with all but one of the incoming adds beelining for you. Fists of Earth actually became relevant thanks to this place. I also learnt which enemies I can Engage the squadron on without them engaging on me, to ease the process.