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    Quote Originally Posted by VillainQueen View Post
    No not really. They decided to do the Hrothgar before the female Viera and even the models we have seen were just finished. So while it could've been possible that someone did a prototype male model at some point. The Viera were an afterthought and we only got the female one because we wanted them so much. That's why we have this, not fully pleasing anyone, compromise now.
    From what Ive understood, they were developing viera before Hrothgar as far back as HW. That being said, even if Hrothgar were being made before Viera, this still isnt a compromise. The Hrothgar isnt generating the hype they wanted. A compromise would imply that there was equal interest in Ronso as there were Viera, but I think that is pretty much not the case. Same if the compromise was based on people wanting more races. Shafting one race in favor of a second one that wasnt really in demand is the isn't a compromise.

    If it were, as I said, they wouldnt be asking what the players think so soon after fanfest. They were prompted to do so due to how much feedback they were seeing. Consider it this way: If there wasnt much feedback all together (i.e people were just meh), they wouldnt bother asking the question, and if the Hrothgar was extremely well received, they wouldnt ask the question then either. The only reason they would ask it is if it wasnt well received (which I dont believe it was considering audience reaction and threads/posts that have popped up since then).

    Lastly, yeah, they actually probably do have baseline male Viera models. Most MMOs dont create new models from the ground up every time. They use a template that they then modify because it cuts down on development time (as a point, they probably modified the Roe model for Hrothgar). What is likely is they do have the baseline Viera Male Model. What they probably dont have is the more detailed things like facial features, as well as hairstyles and animations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nariel View Post
    let me be clear. I'm not gainst male Viera, they exist ? Good, They don't ? Don't care.

    But, there is reason to choice staff made, be it good or bad or at your taste or not.

    I too think its a lame excuses, but it is what it is.
    It is, but I dont think we as eh player base should hold that up as a good reason. What I mean is we shouldnt be defending it as a legitimate point because I hazard most people look at that reason and think "Hey, thats kind of stupid. This isnt FF Tactics." We should be criticizing it, rather than upholding the reasoning. Shrugging our shoulders and saying "Welp devs made that decision cause lore, guess thats it!" is silly. Particularly if the lore in of itself isnt particularly strong, nor does it really have any place in FFXIV contextually. The very same Lore reason can be disregarded by creating lore that creates exception. Meaning, for all the lore of why there isnt male viera (and in FFXIVs case it is extremely limited), it's fairly easy to write just as much lore for their now inclusion.

    In any case, yeah, they should just make both sexes and settle the issue. People want male viera. And I bet you that people will eventually be asking for female hrothgar in time (if not already). Might as well just work towards that at some point.
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    Last edited by Melichoir; 03-26-2019 at 03:10 AM.