Gender locked race?

[artyport]

Alphinaud is 16 years old. His body is that of a teenager; if you drew sexual art of him or a blooming lala, guess what - you're going to get your art flagged. I remember when one of the big FF discords got deleted by discord because someone posted 18+ lala art.

Some folks do NOT want to see a teenager that is clearly under the age of 18 or -looks like they're underage - wearing some of the very revealing outfits that this game has to offer. Lalas yet again have zero sexual characteristics; they have no chest, no 'backside' no 'hips' - they are potatoes.

Would freak me the heck out to see someone RPing in such a manner on such a build, just like it would freak me out to see someone on a lala doing that. I shouldn't be subjected to it, nor should I have to view something that in my eyes looks seriously 'inappropriate' and/or seriously 'wrong' in my culture. Unless the outfits for such a body style are covered and modest, I don't want to see it. Call me selfish, sure - I'll take it, hard 'heck no' on that one chief.

Do I like seeing scantly clad cat girls or au'ra? No, but I can deal with that. I can't, however, deal with a teenager/child build dressed like that. I just did one of the DRK quests very recently with Rielle, someone who shares that body type. That face is clearly that of a child, nopity nope. xD This is why I'm even more 'NOPE' at the mere idea of it.


I do not want to see someone like this in a bathing suit. Especially not a 'bunny girl' who is already sexualised and certainly not a 'bunny boy'. Viera already has 'playboy bunny' slapped on it.

You know what I’m thirty and I have a body shape most similar to young elezen. I’m short and very lean. I just wanna play my self with bunny ears!!! Cuz it’s cute!

[username1234]

He's a fictional elf with the body of a human adult. If I want my 18+ viera to have a similar body type what's the problem? "I don't like it" isn't a valid reason. I don't like a lot of the ways people present themselves in-game but I'm not going to ask SE to remove customization options from the game because people have different tastes than me.

[Gwenorai]

He's a fictional elf with the body of a human adult. If I want my 18+ viera to have a similar body type what's the problem? "I don't like it" isn't a valid reason. I don't like a lot of the ways people present themselves in-game but I'm not going to ask SE to remove customization options from the game because people have different tastes than me.

I 'don't like it' isn't the argument - if you can't see that then I don't know what to tell you. The argument of, 'they look like a child' but actually they're '18+' doesn't move away from the whole point that they look like a child. And in western culture most people do not want to have a child/underage character sexualised.

Only reason shota is even allowed to exist in Japan is due to the 13 age of consent. Over here in the UK, a person can be convicted of being in the possession of 'child pornography' for having shota/lolicon art that wasn't just them being 'cute' but overly sexualised and of course, other things..

If you want to be small in height like 'Bosmer' small, then that's fine, at least they don't look like children, have beards and the likes. If you want to look like a teenager under the age of 18 and wear a revealing outfit that shows your 'features' then that's when I'm going to start asking S.E to either change that particular outfit on that race to something that isn't revealing or go out of my way to blacklist people who are doing it because of how much I despise it. I won't hate on you, I won't shout at you, I won't say anything about your choice - but as soon as we're out of a party I'm going to make sure I don't run into you again if I can help it. People have different background and histories, mine just happens to have me despise anyone who thinks sexualisation of teens and children is acceptable. I shouldn't have to defend my stance on this, I thought this was basic of 'normality'.


Getting back on track because I don't want to discuss this any further regarding 'children' and 'teens' -
I'd be fine with the height scale being able to move back and forth to a larger extent; I would find that rather interesting.

[cicatriz313]

I think there's like a 90% chance that we won't see male Viera in two weeks. All this slender, feminine version of male Viera? Probably 99% chance we won't see it in my mind.

[artyport]

I think you are right but as a slender feminine man. I am sad. I think the viera males would have been the perfect race to play.

I find it a bit saddening that slim feminine men are too “weird” to be in game.

[username1234]

I mean he literally doesn't resemble a child at all. If you think liking that body type is pedophilia that's pure projection on your part.

[cicatriz313]

I happen to think Midlander face 2, Wildwood face 3, Miqo Face 3 are all pretty... child-like if anyone is into that. Miqo can be pretty short too.

[artyport]

Honestly I just wanna be skinny. I play a cute miqo now
But they could be skinnier aaaND DEM HANDS THO

[Gwenorai]

Honestly I just wanna be skinny. I play a cute miqo now
But they could be skinnier aaaND DEM HANDS THO

I hope they update the CC to allow this honestly; it's in dire need of an update!

[Lauront]

The only race I think is close to Bara is Roe and maybe Hyur, But the Elezen and Au ra are super skinny so is the Miqot'e they are just short and skinny.

People keep saying that, but male au ra have bigger built limbs than male highlanders. Even if the waist is a bit slender, they're far from "skinny". Elezen are lean and muscled, but yes, they do have a slender countenance by comparison. Miqo'te and midlanders are on the stockier end. Roegadyn are on an extreme of their own.

That said, whilst au ra and highlander men are muscular and to an extent bulky, there's a big gap between them and roegadyn, so there's space in that area for a race like Hrothgar.

Can't say I'm in agreement with the desire to look like a child. Maybe if they were a subrace - but I'm certainly going to wrinkle my nose at the idea of the males looking so drastically different and stuck in some sort of juvenile state that people will sexualise. Seeing as Yoshida is clearly against the idea of them being 'Cute' you can sadly kiss the whole 'looks like a child' idea out of the window.

If he's already uncomfortable with the idea of men just being 'rabbits' in the first place, then I can assure you that child bunny man is even more 'far out'. Honestly would disturb the heck out of me seeing them wearing 'sexy clothes'. No thanks. Shota is gross.

It's not just that. I don't really care too much if they add some skinny race. However, the way they've gone with Viera males, and their prior objections to considering their addition, make them particularly ill suited to being this "skinny" race. Unless they added two drastically dimorphous subraces, it's not going to happen. I take the 2015 concept art to be what the devs would be comfortable adding. If they add a dimorphous subrace, whatever, but if the only playable Viera males were to be some example of reverse dimorphism, I would not be particularly impressed, in the slightest. Thankfully, I doubt the devs are even thinking of pursuing such an avenue at all and seem to be the ones most opposed to it. I also agree on shota. Whilst Alphinaud is a teenager, he looks more like one in his early than mid/later teens. Could be down to how elezen age compared to hyur.

I think there's like a 90% chance that we won't see male Viera in two weeks. All this slender, feminine version of male Viera? Probably 99% chance we won't see it in my mind.

That or the devs will simply design them as they see fit, considering that the forum tends to be a minority of players more than anything else, and they're well aware of that.