Gender locked race?

[NanakoLigh]

Gaius wasn't a hint at all he's literally using the generic garlean gunblade animation the gunblades we use are completely different.

[redcurrant18]

Hooded Yugiri NPC = Au Ra teaser
Thancred and Yugiri vs Leviathan in that really old quest = Ninja teaser
Astrologian Tower in Lower Coerthas = Astro teaser (they had a very large role in tracking dragon movements)
No Dark Knight Teasers X
No Machinist Teasers X
Alisae vs Warriors of Darkness = Red Mage teaser
Gosetsu = Samurai teaser (can't remember if he showed up before or after Stormblood started though)
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Gaius using gunblade = Gunbreaker teaser
No Blue Mage teaser (that I can remember other than the leaks) X
Tsukuyomi wielding a fan, while also having a move that somewhat looks like Sword Dance = Possible Dancer teaser?

And lastly, Fran npc in Ivalice raid (along with Tsukuyomi's rabbit ears)= Viera teaser

[Shougun]

Hooded Yugiri NPC = Au Ra teaser
Thancred and Yugiri vs Leviathan in that really old quest = Ninja teaser
Astrologian Tower in Lower Coerthas = Astro teaser (they had a very large role in tracking dragon movements)
No Dark Knight Teasers X
No Machinist Teasers X
Alisae vs Warriors of Darkness = Red Mage teaser
Gosetsu = Samurai teaser (can't remember if he showed up before or after Stormblood started though)
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Gaius using gunblade = Gunbreaker teaser
No Blue Mage teaser (that I can remember other than the leaks) X
Tsukuyomi wielding a fan, while also having a move that somewhat looks like Sword Dance = Possible Dancer teaser?

And lastly, Fran npc in Ivalice raid (along with Tsukuyomi's rabbit ears)= Viera teaser

So we all agree they've both teased and not teased stuff and we're all playing with likelihoods and not hard facts? Goo-- no? Oh.. dang

lol, not particularly addressing that to you Red I just liked you listed that a lot of things were teased early and some things not as much . Also I feel a few of those could only be seen in hindsight, since some of the changes didn't quite foment fully till after an expansion/FanFest drop (but I agree quite a few were teased early, hard, and obviously).

I think for a second race, if that will be a thing, the teaser will be in the last patch to FFXIV Stormblood, so probably announced at Japan FanFest in minor detail (and shown in some cliff hanger way in 4.X closing). To the point it might not even be in the benchmark lol. At least I'm assuming there are a few announcement points after FanFest, iirc another live letter at least. Or even more vague if the race is unlocked through the gameplay of shadowbringer, which is possible but certainly quite different.

But I would also add when someone asked Yoshida along the lines "male viera is definitely a thing right? I believe you wouldn't do that to us." he was like "the way that's worded makes me not want to answer, I'm a contrarian - read the lore it's nice and hints at what'll happen". I think while he knows the formula is important he also doesn't want to be sticking the game in a rut.. a very ying yang sort of situation lol.

While I'm very hopeful and would be VERY excited if a ronso-lion-like race was a thing I don't expect it, so luckily I only have upwards hype for that at least . I would be sincerely confused however, if they had no male Viera and no male counterpart race haha.

[NanakoLigh]

Gaius wasn't a teaser at all stop using that example.

[redcurrant18]

Gaius wasn't a teaser at all stop using that example.

Much like Thancred and Alisae, when he appeared to help out Alphinaud this pretty much followed their standard procedure for teasing some of the other jobs. Not every job gets this kind of treatment though.

[Gwenorai]

Oh, yeah, but that's the issue really isn't it? Nothing like having another race step in due to one chaps personal preference. I'm hoping that's not the case and his personal preference is overruled by his fellow developers. While personal preference can be good, it can also be damaging and in most cases it's extremely noticeable.

With Yoshida, it's big red flags - while I don't expect a huge outrage, some of the things he's said in the past to do have some folks cocking a brow. I mean, I cocked a brow regarding the 'weirdness' he brought up regarding male rabbit men. Seemed a bit backwards and something that belongs in r/fragilemasculinity. I'm hoping that's not the case any longer and he's kind of put his own desires behind him. I did have some hope when the art of the male Viera was shown and obviously, he didn't want to show it, but he did anyway. That means someone on the dev team won, or rather he was outvoted.

As for 'ronso like' I feel bad for thinking this, but no... I can't imagine Ronso in this game fitting in without a huge rework of the rigs etc for them to even show a lick of emotion in cutscenes. And this game seems to go overboard with 'emotions' I suppose they have to due to the lack of voiced lines and the like. ESO had the same issue with Khajiit and Argonian, but they're more up to date - but also they don't have in-depth cutscenes which shows emotional ranges like FF14 does. Ronso would look like a stiff emotionless bundle of muscle and fur unless they do some huge work on that whole system. I mean, it sucks. But eh, limitations are limitations.

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I'm hoping we see either another Viera - a male - or a Hrothgar as an important NPC very soon.

In the end, I'm going to hope and pray that the Blufever leak is correct here and that the fact he didn't mention genderlocks. But Lion race, yeah, I have no hope in that looking too beast-like and more humanoid. I don't think they actually can go beyond that and make it extremely beast-like anyway - due to the plot? Aren't Ronso beast men? And the whole plot the Empire has is having all 'humanoid' races, become one like they once were? This wouldn't include Ronso - would it? No, they'd just be on the empire's 'kill list' because they worship primals.

[Nestama]

If they can make a Yagudo in FFXI show emotion (mainly by using his eyes and body language), then I'm sure they can do the same for Hrothgar.

[Gwenorai]

Heh, we will see!

Now, big question time as this has been bothering me and could be completely unrelated but I thought it was worth mentioning.


Who is this? Of course, I'm talking about the hooded fellow. At first, I thought they were an ascian with the hood, but looking closer the design doesn't match. Then I looked at the arms and the tattoos/bandages/scales - they actually remind me of Viera style clothing, or specifically, the male Viera concept art; the males have these type of things on their arms/wrists? Especially the bandages. The arms look 'male' to me, something about the physiology - the thickness. Especially when compared to female official FF14 art. Then there's the nose...the nose looks like a Viera's nose, small button top like. Then there's the marking on the face/neck - it looks unkempt? At first, I thought it was scarring or something of the sorts, but it also looks like fur? It also looks like they do actually have a scar going from the nose to their cheek, a slash mark like an animal clawed them.

Can Viera hide their ears in a hood? I imagine so since they can be floppy and controlled/flattened down? And then there was the other ear type I remember being discussed which Yoshida cut short before that lovely artist lady could show it.

Watch them be someone we already know, but I couldn't think of anyone so I'm extremely curious on who this chap is.



This is what I'm looking at in regards to the male viera concept art;

[xbahax92]

Who is this? Of course, I'm talking about the hooded fellow. At first, I thought they were an ascian with the hood, but looking closer the design doesn't match. Then I looked at the arms and the tattoos/bandages/scales - they actually remind me of Viera style clothing, or specifically, the male Viera concept art; the males have these type of things on their arms/wrists? Especially the bandages. The arms look 'male' to me, something about the physiology - the thickness. Especially when compared to female official FF14 art. Then there's the nose...the nose looks like a Viera's nose, small button top like. Then there's the marking on the face/neck - it looks unkempt? At first, I thought it was scarring or something of the sorts, but it also looks like fur? It also looks like they do actually have a scar going from the nose to their cheek, a slash mark like an animal clawed them.

You do have a blooming fantasy and while I do not critize it, I doubt a male Viera has anything to do with the expansions box artwork. I do believe its the Emet-Selch, the ascian that has yet to be revealed.