Gender locked race?

[Allegor]

I think it's rather interesting that viera(To my knowledge correct me if I'm wrong) was only shown without any mention or indication of a sub race

Not in the fanfest per se but the npc that revealed viera did mention 2 clans, a light skinned and dark skinned (forgot what names he used tho). Hopefully they're more than just recolors. I don't want to sound entitled but small different features is seriously the least they could do, or else what's even the point of having 2 clans.

[Bright-Flower]

I think it's rather interesting that viera(To my knowledge correct me if I'm wrong) was only shown without any mention or indication of a sub race, I get that they weren't finished but surely if they were going to do sub races how they have been historically done we'd just get a lighter and darker viera with more distinct features between them right?

Perhaps the 'young elezen' looking viera will be some sort of subrace and the hrothgar will get a similar 'young elezen' subrace for themselves.

Fanfest didn't give a subrace but two viera clan names WERE dropped in the 4.5 lore. I forget their names but the only thing mentioned being different was one being lighter skinned and one darker. I"m not expecting anything truely different like mid/highlander split.

[Shougun]

I think it's rather interesting that viera(To my knowledge correct me if I'm wrong) was only shown without any mention or indication of a sub race, I get that they weren't finished but surely if they were going to do sub races how they have been historically done we'd just get a lighter and darker viera with more distinct features between them right?

Perhaps the 'young elezen' looking viera will be some sort of subrace and the hrothgar will get a similar 'young elezen' subrace for themselves.

Do you mean like shown side by side? Because then yeah we definitely never recieved that lol. But do you mean is there any mention what so ever about a subrace? Because we do have mention of a subrace in the game lore written by Matsuno. That lore says there are two clans (subraces) and their main difference is light skin and dark skin, this lore written for Viera is also the same lore built for FFXII's world and we know from that game that it's indeed mainly a color difference.

[MrKimper]

Do you mean like shown side by side? Because then yeah we definitely never recieved that lol. But do you mean is there any mention what so ever about a subrace? Because we do have mention of a subrace in the game lore written by Matsuno. That lore says there are two clans (subraces) and their main difference is light skin and dark skin, this lore written for Viera is also the same lore built for FFXII's world and we know from that game that it's indeed mainly a color difference.

Interesting interesting. It still does seem quite odd that they wouldn't show them off at the fan festival.

[Gwenorai]

Interesting interesting. It still does seem quite odd that they wouldn't show them off at the fan festival.

They did, that's how 'little' the difference was. Which actually makes it really questionable. The females shown were supposedly of those two 'clans'. Which is just ??? - you couldn't even tell the difference unless you knew Viera lore. Other subraces are like that as well though; differences in skin tones and the likes. Viera is just odd because the difference is something we would consider a 'normal skin tone' on both of them. Dark skin vs light skin, can't say I like it.

Both 'types' both live in the same location, have the same type of history and follow the same laws - they have the same lore. It's actually pretty boring.

[Shougun]

They did, that's how 'little' the difference was. Which actually makes it really questionable.

Oh really haha, I thought that was all one clan in the video.

I cry.

Going to go rub my genie lamp some more, really hope Hrothgar are a thing and really cool XD.

[Gwenorai]

Ha, nah, that was both of them. The video wasn't all that interesting, to be honest, and to me wasn't all that well done - it didn't seem 'complete'. It seemed like they were behind schedule, in fact, you got hints they were certainly getting by the skin of their teeth regarding time to actually present things for fanfest.

If they're that behind on Viera then I shudder to think what state Hrothgar would be in - or if Hrothgar was created 'first' then obviously they had it all along in their heads that they wanted a gender lock, and the story they're going for in regards to ShadowBringers is going to reflect that. Or neither is gender locked and they're just behind on schedule. Or Hrothgar is going to be a later release.

[Iscah]

Both 'types' both live in the same location, have the same type of history and follow the same laws - they have the same lore. It's actually pretty boring.

That's bothered me since we first got the Viera lore dump. Skintone might be the most noticeable difference between clans of other races, but they usually have secondary features (eg. distinct eyes) and always different lore.

It bothers me that he just talks about "Viera culture" and not the clans.


Wild theory though, if skintone really is the only distinction between them - and unless they've specifically made new dark-oriented and pale-oriented palettes for them - why not have them programmed as one clan, and use the second clan for something else entirely... like Hrothgar?

Then again, they might just have more subtle distinctions and the Dramaturge isn't going to hold up his explanation to outline every detail. If nothing else, I hope that's the case at least.

[Gwenorai]

That's bothered me since we first got the Viera lore dump. Skintone might be the most noticeable difference between clans of other races, but they usually have secondary features (eg. distinct eyes) and always different lore.

It bothers me that he just talks about "Viera culture" and not the clans.


Wild theory though, if skintone really is the only distinction between them - and unless they've specifically made new dark-oriented and pale-oriented palettes for them - why not have them programmed as one clan, and use the second clan for something else entirely... like Hrothgar?

Then again, they might just have more subtle distinctions and the Dramaturge isn't going to hold up his explanation to outline every detail. If nothing else, I hope that's the case at least.

They'd have to do something otherwise yeah, it's going to be boring - but then again if they're going the gender locked route then it's already going to be a race that doesn't have two distinct sub-races as well as lacking their male counterparts.

Part of me wishes that Hrothgar is the subrace to Viera that simply doesn't live in the wood and thus has the smaller ears and mane-like hair, perhaps lives in mountain/snow climate - like an Arctic hare. Arctic hares are much smaller than normal hares having smaller limbs and smaller ears than their counterparts. Also of course not forgetting that 'Viera' means 'of the wood'. Seems highly unlikely, however; unless people can't tell the difference between a 'cat' and a 'rabbit' in descriptions.

[Wolfyboy]

They'd have to do something otherwise yeah, it's going to be boring - but then again if they're going the gender locked route then it's already going to be a race that doesn't have two distinct sub-races as well as lacking their male counterparts.

Part of me wishes that Hrothgar is the subrace to Viera that simply doesn't live in the wood and thus has the smaller ears and mane-like hair, perhaps lives in mountain/snow climate - like an Arctic hare. Arctic hares are much smaller than normal hares having smaller limbs and smaller ears than their counterparts. Also of course not forgetting that 'Viera' means 'of the wood'. Seems highly unlikely, however; unless people can't tell the difference between a 'cat' and a 'rabbit' in descriptions.

That wouldn't make sense with the French leaks since it was separated by races and not by clans, so I wouldn't even say unlikely but a hard, "No."