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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansion View Post
    Hubbah Bubbah sounds like Wumpa.
    Wumpa is a fruit.
    Crash Bandicoot is a Hrothgar.
    Please look forward to it.
    New racial only actions.

    Hrothgar: Spin 2 Win.
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    Lmao. If they fake leaked some stuff to find leakers, I will take my hat off to Yoshi for his epic troll. I wouldn't count on it though.

    Edit: I am posting based on assumptions as I find it more likely to get two partial races than two full races based on the past. That's all. All of my assumptions are based on things I've seen.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mansion View Post
    What if people had been wanting apples for years, writing their eagerness to get apples, voicing this will for apples, then one day you are told "here are red apples. You wanted green apples? Here, have a banana."
    I believe the lyrics are... I want to eat eat eat apples AND bananas.
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    Wow some lizard dude is still bent on calling people who want a race he doesn't "furries"? Starting to sound a weeeeeee bit hypocritical, my dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn View Post
    Wow some lizard dude is still bent on calling people who want a race he doesn't "furries"? Starting to sound a weeeeeee bit hypocritical, my dude.
    I take it you missed this and the ensuing posts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    No, that's not what I was trying to say. I just don't expect the Hrothgar to be a full on furry race basically. :v I'm expecting something humanlike with animal traits mixed in. Not full blown furry stuff like those pandas from WoW. Nothing against those you want that, but I just think it is unlikely. We'll find out Friday one way or another though!
    I mean, if they make them like Byakko, minus the Auspice embellishments, they'd still look pretty humanoid.



    He has very handsome facial features. That would be visually distinct to Miqo'te and not too bestial.

    The other option would be something like Cray from Breath of Fire, but then you do run into the "buffer" miqo'te territory.



    Ultimately, I don't want a gender-locked race. If they choose to gender-lock Viera, hopefully it will be on the basis that they will later unlock them.

    As things stand, Hrothgar are merely a name found in some localisation code error, and we have precious little to determine how they might look, but if they're a reality, and not just some ruse or error, I also don't expect a full on furry race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn View Post
    Wow some lizard dude is still bent on calling people who want a race he doesn't "furries"? Starting to sound a weeeeeee bit hypocritical, my dude.
    It's to be expected at this point. Quite a few people are getting rather nasty in regards to their arguments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    It's to be expected at this point. Quite a few people are getting rather nasty in regards to their arguments.
    ? i haven't been inflammatory in any of my responses though.

    The post above is way more inflammatory than I have been.

    I don't think you're understanding what I was saying but I'll break it down.

    1. I am not arguing for male viera/female hrothgar being added into the game, I am aware of the leaks and think they have a fair bit of credibility.

    2. I am not stating that EVERYONE who wants or are looking forward to female/male hrothgar are or is a furry, I was simply saying there is a difference between kemonomimi/kemono(Athropomorphic/Partial-Beastial traits) and that a MAJORITY of people who would want to see/enjoy and are into anthropomorphic races are both niche(based on racial data and voted data) and are most likely furries(Not a derogatory term).

    3. That people should be allowed to say or give speculations without the constant "DON'T GET YOUR HOPES UP DUDES THE LEAKS SAID YOU'LL JUST BE DISAPPOINTED ON FRIDAY." that's not a constructive or conducive attitude to have when discussing, things that have nothing to do with male viera, or genderlocking.

    4. I can see the argument on both sides, and I do think there's more evidence to genderlocks whether we like them or not, however we most certainly haven't seen everything yet and anyone claiming otherwise is just being a debby downer.

    Let people speculate if they choose to, whatever happens on friday happens essentially, again I'm pretty impartial in this since I prefer male midlander(No money for fantasias) and I'm more concerned with what jobs we'll see at the fanfest but I enjoy taking part in discussion since I love speculating.

    Edit: Also Also I'm not completely against genderlocks if there's some sort of good tradeoff for them, like say more customization more faces, more subraces and the like, and do see how they can help with resource allocation as some have explained in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
    ? i haven't been inflammatory in any of my responses though.


    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
    "HUBBAH BUBBAH GETTING HOPES UP HUBBAH BUBBAH LEAKS HUBBAH BUBBHA OWN FAULT HUBBAH BUBBHA NOT A FURRY, HROTHGAR DEMANDED HUBBAH BUBBHA."
    Because full blasting in all caps mocking some people isn't inflammatory apparently?
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    Oh stop. If THAT'S what you consider inflammatory, then this entire thread is filled with inflammatory posts from both sides.

    Edit: "HUBBAH BUBBAH DOESN'T LIKE PEOPLE SUMMARIZING SLIGHTLY CONDESCENDING IDEOLOGY INTO FUNNY NONSENSICAL CAPS LOCK TEXT HUBBAH BUBBAH."
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    Quote Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn View Post
    Wow some lizard dude is still bent on calling people who want a race he doesn't "furries"? Starting to sound a weeeeeee bit hypocritical, my dude.
    No, that's not what I was trying to say. I just don't expect the Hrothgar to be a full on furry race basically. :v I'm expecting something humanlike with animal traits mixed in. Not full blown furry stuff like those pandas from WoW. Nothing against those who want that, but I just think it is unlikely. We'll find out Friday one way or another though!
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    Dear gods, I went to sleep and this got almost 20 pages? Sweet Iesu...

    So, in general: A furry is not "slap some animal ears and tail in this otherwise completely human character," that's a kemonomimi. A furry is an animal head (usually with human hair, female lion furries tend to have hair, for example), but a humanoid body. Say, a furry giraffe still has a long neck and giraffe head, but human looking body with giraffe tail.

    Miqo'te have cat ears and tails but otherwise no fur on their bodies (just strip yours); Viera have bunny ears, but no tails or fur elsewhere (the feet are a nice bestial touch, though); Au Ra have horns that act as ears, tails, and some scales but are otherwise human. Now, Ronsos have lion heads and extra fur in chest, legs, hands, shoulders and back: they're furries.

    Now, even IF the male viera get killed off (every. single. one) in the opening of Shadowbringers... it DOESN'T mean we couldn't be one! We can create a character from level one way before that happens, much like how Ishgardians don't even blink if we're an Au Ra, or Yugiri still feels the need to conceal her face while staring directly at us. Even IF they're so rare, even IF males don't leave the forest, we can still be one that DID because the WoL is always an outsider that doesn't really belong to anywhere; unless you yourself give them a backstory, they're not Ishgardian, or Gridanian, or Limsan, or Garlean, or Doman, or anything and the MSQ will never treat you like one. Or like how there can be two WHMs in a party, or 6 in an alliance, yet there's only ONE non-padjali WHM, or one non-tonberry-SCH. Other PCs simply don't exist as anything other than "random adventurers" for the MSQ.

    If Yoshi-P said: "No bunny men, because they're weird" then that's a whole other problem which I'm sure has been mentioned several times over this thread, especially the fact that if they think "Oh, bunny boys are just going to be small and delicate" they had all the resources to not make them as such.

    Also: that Viera fanart? Yeah, I'd love if my Viera guy looked like THAT <.<
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