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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    I want to see more Conjury. A lot more. It's fine if the new effects of that span only 1-50, but WHM feels short of ground-work for anything more interesting than an identity of "most straightforward (barebone), obvious healer caricature". From there, White magic can start shaping towards more classically "WHM" things, sourced by those new CNJ skills and mechanics. Introduce Soulfont, a way to coalesce elemental magics into White magic, at level 50, and steadily make more off of that over level 52-60, ending in Soulfont phase now compounding towards some extreme strength hits. From 62-80, extra as much utility as from that as possible without stepping into any territory of raidwide %stat or %effect buffs.
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    [I'm not sure if it's ok to compare XIV stuff to other games in these forums, so sorry beforehand].

    When I first heard about the WHM lilies I thought it was cool, because at the time I still played WoW and holy priests had a similar trait where certain spells would lower the cd of the big spells. Difference is...the spells in question were actually a normal part of their rotation, not that one basic spell you kinda ignore unless everything else is on cd.

    To put a better comparison, or even potential rework, think of this:

    Each Stone cast and Aero II/III tick lowers the cd of Presence of Mind
    Each Medica, Medica II, Cure III, or Holy cast lowers the cd of Asylum and Assize
    Each Cure and Cure II cast, or Regen ticks lowers the cd of Benediction, Tetragrammaton, and Divine Benison.

    It doesn't necessarily have to be a cd reduction, it could be a potency increase, a cd reset if crit, etc, but TL;DR, just make the job more dynamic and incentivize WHMs to use their whole kit. NO ONE spends most of their time casting exclusively Cure and Cure II.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    I want to see more Conjury. A lot more..
    Also this. I'm aware that traditionally speaking, WHM are more of a cleric theme, but since it's also a CNJ (aka totally not a druid) it makes sense to have more nature oriented spells.
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    miraidensetsu's Avatar
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    Luno Belfi
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    I want to see more Conjury. A lot more. It's fine if the new effects of that span only 1-50, but WHM feels short of ground-work for anything more interesting than an identity of "most straightforward (barebone), obvious healer caricature". From there, White magic can start shaping towards more. Introduce Soulfont, a way to coalesce elemental magics into White magic, at level 50, and steadily make more off of that over level 52-60, ending in Soulfont phase now compounding towards some extreme strength hits. From 62-80, extra as much utility as from that as possible without stepping into any territory of raidwide %stat or %effect buffs.
    That.

    And I'd like to add some Aether-themed action. And about lillies, for me the soluion for them is:

    Scrap lillies. Seriously. Just delete healing bar, SoTL and SoTL II. It won't make any difference for us.

    But if S-E likes to add another thing for WHM, then add a Elemental Aether Gauge. It can measure how much aether you've drawn from the elementals. It fills everytime you use a GCD (Cure, Medica, Regen, Stone, Aero, etc). It'll be more straightforward than RDM's, since it'll be just one bar. It'll enhance the oGCDs, adding an bonus damage/heal while you have the buff added when you choose to release the mana using an action learned at level 73 (maybe Elemental Release?).
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    Last edited by miraidensetsu; 02-27-2019 at 11:49 PM.