Thread: WHM wishlist for 5.0

These are the things I wish to be part of 5.0 for White Mage

• Shell, an spell that works like the PVP Protect (earth-based)
• An water-based attack spell
• A revamp to lillies to it finally make sense tracking it
• Keep the assize buff, please?
• Keep the PI buff, please?
• Don't be abandoned, like the trailer can suggest (Urianger will be an AST while Y'shtola swaps to BLM)

Keep the Assize buff, yes. With both Indom and Earthly Star being so strong, 300 potency is really outdated.

Give them utility. Please just do it already, you obviously will never buff our damage because you don't consider healer DPS during balancing, so give us utility already.

As weird as it sounds, I hope Cure III is taken off the GCD. I feel like SE treats Cure III as this godly spell that must be balanced around when it's really just not that good anymore, both because SCH and AST oGCD healing has become so strong, and because content doesn't require it.

Keep buffs? have the been discussing taking them away? But I think they should remove protect and make it an actual cool down like the pvp version. idk if it's whm only I just want another ability and not have to have people pester me for a useless one DX

Originally Posted by Transient_Shadow

Keep buffs? have the been discussing taking them away? But I think they should remove protect and make it an actual cool down like the pvp version. idk if it's whm only I just want another ability and not have to have people pester me for a useless one DX

They made it very clear that these are temporary buffs and that they will probably be changed by 5.0.

Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry

They made it very clear that these are temporary buffs and that they will probably be changed by 5.0.

Ah. Well I do hope they make whm dpsing more engaging. I love the theme of it and started as a cnj. But I've always enjoyed sch gameplay more. It would be nice to have some more stuff to throw at enemies besides holy and Aero III. And I hope they get rid of Indulgence or at least rework it. Personally it feels like a wasted ability. You have to use other healing spells to proc it and by the time you've used those you won't need indulgence in the first place. If they made lilies like Aetherflow where they were used one at a time and indulgence would replenish them that would be awesome.

But I would understand if people don't want that kind of thing. But I personally think more classes need a 'charge' system of some sort.

A friend of mine asked me the same question recently so I'll just repost my response here:

Need

• Lily Rework ( shamelessly plugging my Lily Rework suggestion here )

Want

• More DPS (either via adding utility or just higher potency numbers overall)
• More Water Abilities / just give us some Water Spells

Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry

They made it very clear that these are temporary buffs and that they will probably be changed by 5.0.

I do feel Yoshi-P's comment was less about the buffs being a temporary fix and more of a warning to players to not be surprised if the changes get reverted, which implies they may also keep them. We'll find out in five months from now (probably less actually if we get some pre-release conferences where people can play with alpha/beta builds of the expansion)

While i could understand nerfing back assize to its previous state (doesnt mean i agree)、 PI went from useless to usable with the duration increase. This change has to stay

Stone skin and stoneskin II back. I don't know how many times in lower level dungeons I've had tanks wait for a shield before pulling bosses when I don't have one. Perhaps change Divine Bension even to Stoneskin III and keep it as is.

I'll also echo a lilly re-work. Make them something we plan around, not totally ignore as they effect play so little especially with Secret of the Lilly II.

Change Lilies in several ways.
- Make them Greased Lightning-ish, having 3 lilies gives you GCD reduction and a slight mind buff.
- Lily generation changed. Maybe each Critical Stone,or critical Aero tick or something along those lines
- Using a Lily-aspected action buffs its potency based on number of lilies, instead of CD reduction.
- Add a DPS friendly clipping option. A reduced potency instant GCD (along the Ruin II for SMN/SCH) for instance.
- Keep agro reduction we had in 4.5 and add an agro drop to Fluid Aura or Assize.
- Make Fluid Aura useful or get rid of it.
- Make Presence of Mind 120 sec or 180 sec.

I think I'm asking too much, but that could be nice compensation for two bad expansions.

Update Freecure. Increase it's chance to at least 25%, then add in Freecure II where Cure II procs a free Cure III.


Make Protect WHM exclusive, along with Shell.

Protect: Erects a barrier around player that prevents 10% of all incoming damage for 20s. When player is struct by a physical attack you generate 1 lily. 20s cooldown, shares a recast timer with Shell.

Shell: Erects a barrier around player that prevents 10% of all incoming damage. When player is struck by magical damage they gain a confession stack. 20s cooldown, shares a recast timer with Protect.