Please no more Eureka!

[Tracewood]

Eureka is fine, except for how Pagos was implemented. It gave us a new zone almost every patch. If they do a new "Eureka", they should put something for gatherers like they did for Diadem, (and by extent crafters for the rare mats they can farm).

I would like to see Materia be relevant in upgrading. I have T5 for days, though it may not be fair for newer players who didn't amass a stockpile. Maybe use materia to feed light steps.

[Lambdafish]

Whatever you do, you still do the same thing over again in the 4 eureka. Be blind at you heart content, don't blame those wo have more expectation than doing what they already could do in the overworld but don't because its crap tier activity. Except treasure hunting, treasure map are better than playing hot/cold with a rabit NpC and is not related to do a boring fate were you're not even sure to get one.

Its fine to not like Eureka, but the devs can and should change content, and taking that as a personal attack by saying that content has been taken away from you is beyond entitled. Do something else with your time, there are plenty of ways to get BiS

I don't really have much more to say than that. Your opinion is valid, and I have seen people who both love Eureka (like myself) and hate it (like you). Both opinions are valid. Some people detest ultimate, some detest PVP, some detested the design of 2.0/3.0 relics. It's fine to not like something, it is also fine to express your opinion about a piece of content. What is not fine is complaining that you can't have the reward without doing the content, or that the content has somehow denied you something else. That attitude fits the definition of entitled https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...glish/entitled.

Its a theme park MMO, do something other than Eureka.

[EaMett]

I both love and hate some aspects of eureka. By far the greatest drawback and reason why they should not do it again is that it’s heavily co-op gated and for people like myself who tackled the content a little late it’s just ridiculously tedious. The lower levels of any zone are horrible and not fun if you don’t do them as they come out.

The idea that a relic weapon could be dependent on having to do the diadem now that it is no longer current content is absurdly stupid design. Eureka is basically that.

[Bonbori]

If they do a new "Eureka", they should put something for gatherers like they did for Diadem, (and by extent crafters for the rare mats they can farm).

No, no, nooooooooo. No. NO!

Literally the LAST thing Eureka needs is even more incentives that don't belong in there baiting even more people who don't belong in there. It's bad enough that this Eureka holds emotes hostage, we don't need another iteration of it advertising extremely niche content to a completely incompatible audience.

Let Eureka-like content stand on its own legs... if it has legs. Don't try to artificially inflate the population - make it the best it can be specifically and exclusively for the people who love Eureka-style content. It doesn't need wide appeal, it needs to know and cater to its own niche audience.

In other words, Eureka 2.0 should be designed with the same mindset as Ultimate. Custom-fit it for the 1%, and 100% of the 1% will love it.

[Leanna]

In other words, Eureka 2.0 should be designed with the same mindset as Ultimate. Custom-fit it for the 1%, and 100% of the 1% will love it.

So what content is left for the 99% of the community? Do one expert a day and don't login until next reset after cap?
The game right now has no content, 0. Login 2 hours a week for savage drops isn't content, one expert a day isn't content, the game NEEDS long lasting content for EVERYONE.

And SE has a problem when Diadem is better than Eureka, because Diadem for gatherers was really good.

[Bonbori]

So what content is left for the 99% of the community? Do one expert a day and don't login until next reset after cap?
The game right now has no content, 0. Login 2 hours a week for savage drops isn't content, one expert a day isn't content, the game NEEDS long lasting content for EVERYONE.

And SE has a problem when Diadem is better than Eureka, because Diadem for gatherers was really good.

Again, Ultimate exists, and we know it works. Have you done it? Congratulations, you're the 1%. Have you not? Congratulations, your experience is no worse for ignoring it. By narrowing the development focus and resources down to the fine point that Eureka-lovers would enjoy, the rest of us could get more content in other areas of the game because less dev time would be sunk into content that targets too many demographics with wildly different preferences. FF14 is a themepark, but that doesn't mean we should be expected to try every ride. The haunted house shouldn't be offering incredibly attractive rewards to people who are prone to heart attacks. (Yes I know the analogy is silly and imperfect, but the point remains.) Riding the ultimate death machine rollercoaster shouldn't be required to get tickets to the ballpit.

[Lambdafish]

The haunted house shouldn't be offering incredibly attractive rewards to people who are prone to heart attacks. (Yes I know the analogy is silly and imperfect, but the point remains.)

A better analogy would be that the ultimate death machine rollercoaster has a height restriction, meaning kids can't ride it. Those kids have their own section and their own rides that thrillseekers would find boring. In many theme parks, rides are literally categorised by thrill level, and the type of rider that they are catering to.

[Bonbori]

A better analogy would be that the ultimate death machine rollercoaster has a height restriction, meaning kids can't ride it. Those kids have their own section and their own rides that thrillseekers would find boring. In many theme parks, rides are literally categorised by thrill level, and the type of rider that they are catering to.

Oh! You're right, that's better. But on the second thought, I think it's still a bit inaccurate. Not having height restrictions isn't the worst of Eureka's crimes. And also not insane enough.

I think... what Eureka does with unrelated cosmetics and shoehorned relics (and would do more of if crafting mats were gated behind it too) is like if riding the ultimate death machine rollercoaster was the only way to get tickets to the ballpit.

[Leanna]

Again, Ultimate exists, and we know it works. Have you done it? Congratulations, you're the 1%. Have you not? Congratulations, your experience is no worse for ignoring it. By narrowing the development focus and resources down to the fine point that Eureka-lovers would enjoy, the rest of us could get more content in other areas of the game because less dev time would be sunk into content that targets too many demographics with wildly different preferences. FF14 is a themepark, but that doesn't mean we should be expected to try every ride. The haunted house shouldn't be offering incredibly attractive rewards to people who are prone to heart attacks. (Yes I know the analogy is silly and imperfect, but the point remains.) Riding the ultimate death machine rollercoaster shouldn't be required to get tickets to the ballpit.

No one complains about Ultimate because it doesn't stop SE from making other content, Eureka does. Eureka is the only content we receive outside of the common trials, dungeons and alliance raids, and don't tell me do expert once a day or alliance raid once a week is long lasting content because it isn't.

SE can't throw everything into content no one wants and that is poorly designed, because there isn't any other content released for the people who doesn't want to be forced to afk in a 8 people party for hours.

One attraction doesn't make a theme park.

[therpgfanatic]

I actually enjoy participating in huge trains of players to form an army to combat giant monsters.

Nobody really FATE farms anymore to level up since Deep Dungeon came out. So Eureka is the first time I've done FATE train-ing in a good number of years.

And all of the Eureka instances are pretty well populated still, so I can't be alone in this opinion.